Gifford chilford
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Just one of the companies that pops up first on google, not noticed anything on 2 jabs a day
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Peptides - real results?
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Just one of the companies that pops up first on google, not noticed anything on 2 jabs a day
Ok thanks
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Hi mate noticed you posted a while ago on ukm Bout using toms peps
How are they in comparison to ansomone or pharma Gh (at med dose say 8iu 3x. Week)
Impossible to compare IMO.
However science seems to show clinical PEPs doses 3-4 x a day generates about 3-4iu a day I've read so should be similar
I guess my thought to this is......
If people say a decent pharma gh is much better than a cheaper generic gh, ie 2iu's of pharma gh would yield similar results to say 4-5iu's of a generic gh.
Now with these peptides causing the release of your own natural gh surely that must better again than decent pharma gh, even at similar levels?????
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In theory it is your own Gh so it should be free off impurities etc
Also less likely underdosed also cheaper
(However clinical grade peps arnt that much cheaper tbh)
The draw backs to me appear to be timing of jabs I'm out all day this would be very hard for me.
Also as.far as I'm aware peptides only pulse a small amount of Gh 1.1iu or so (if timing etc is correct) this does not course a spike in igf levels unlike say synthetic Jabs of Gh eg 8iu 3x a week
So that anabolic pathway is out of the window with peptides
I would be interested in results however with a short 6 week cycle of cjc with dac
Peptides pulse GH just like you do naturally everyday of your life so not sure why you would say they do not raise IGF as they do, natural and synthetic GH will convert to IGF in the liver, high doses of GH raise IGF for a constant time just the same as cjc1295 with DAC does and therefore you are at more of a risk of issues from raised IGF levels like cancer, this is the reason using CJC 1295 DAC is only advised for short bursts of say 6-8 weeks, and the reason you can run into issues using high doses of GH ed.
Using clinical grade peptides at saturation dose will release approx 1.13iu of GH and this GH unlike synthetic GH will contain all available isoforms, synthetic GH only contains 1 (22Kda), you can only make a comparison of you compare iu to iu......
People always look for cheap and then expect great results, peptides are no different if you buy cheap then you get cheap.......
If you don't like or cannot do multiple jabs a day then use GH but I would never advise anyone to use high amounts (6+iu per day) unless they split the shots........
The best way I have found to use GH in the off season (when fat loss is not the ultimate goal) is M/W/F at 6-8iu.......
Using clinical grade peptides at saturation dose will release approx 1.13iu of GH and this GH unlike synthetic GH will contain all available isoforms, synthetic GH only contains 1 (22Kda), you can only make a comparison of you compare iu to iu......
People always look for cheap and then expect great results, peptides are no different if you buy cheap then you get cheap.......
If you don't like or cannot do multiple jabs a day then use GH but I would never advise anyone to use high amounts (6+iu per day) unless they split the shots........
The best way I have found to use GH in the off season (when fat loss is not the ultimate goal) is M/W/F at 6-8iu.......
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I saw a article on dats
(To be honest not by dat theirfore nor sure how acurate it was) and he basically said to avoid raising his igf levels (as you said to avoid side effects Risk of cancer etc) he stuck with pepitides
So my path of thought was if peptides essentially pulse Gh levels in small amounts do they spike igf levels to a extent that is anabolic (I know they work via other pathways however just a thought)
Also If using Gh at let's say 8iu m/w/f does this stop raising igf levels for prolonged peroids?
And for fat loss gains entirely (eg pre contest etc)
Would you advise poss just peps followed by small piggy back of Gh?
Sorry to ask so many qs just wanna pick your brains a bit
its not avoiding raising IGF levels its avoiding raising them constantly.....which is what high amounts of GH daily or CJC DAC will do.....i will go over and see if i can find that article though....
forget peptides for the minute, every male releases GH in a pulse fashion through there natural life, this GH will in part convert to IGF-1 in the Liver and this is anabolic, using peptides is no different at all, it raises the IGF-1 for a short time like natural pulses do several times a day......so yes it is anabolic.
yes because 8iu will see GH be active in your system for approx 12-13hrs so you are raising GH and by turn raising IGF for 12-13hrs in a 48hr window so no consistent high level........
for when fat loss is the ultimate goal i would use peptides 3 x day with a 2-4iu piggy back of Pharma GH, i also use Frag
no problem buddy
for when fat loss is the ultimate goal i would use peptides 3 x day with a 2-4iu piggy back of Pharma GH, i also use Frag
Did you dose the frag at the same time as the peps?
Did you dose the frag at the same time as the peps?
No, i find it works better on its own
So would you do the frag fasted first thing before cardion then mod+ghrp afterwards?
if i was to use frag i would use it at 500mcg fasted in the morning, then utilise peptides later in the day
ok mate got it thanks 