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Hrt Exit Pct

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dasfx

Hey guys been on self medicated trt doses of 200-250mg wk and a few cycles the past 5 years. I'm 38 and thinking of coming off and doing a lengthy pct.

Could you guys advise me on what pct to do. I've read about a guy from the US recovered his natural test at the age of 42 doing an extended pct.
 
I’d honestly just come off and see how you go. I ended ten years straight hear use. Normal test. I think a lot is in the mind.
 
The question is...why did you go on TRT in the first place?

If your test levels were low before your 5 years self admin, it’s quite unlikely they will be any better if/when you come off. More likely they will be worse.

If, however, you never checked your levels and just self administered ‘blind’...then you’ve no way of knowing where you will end up, until you get there. Maybe you’ll be fine?

I’m 44, did gear as a lad, just started TRT for life. I use 125mg Sustanon every 6 days and haven’t felt this good for years. If everything stays as it is now, I’ll stay on it for life.

The 200-250 per week you quote sounds a fraction higher than usual TRT dosages I’ve heard (mostly 150-200pw)...did you have to add in an AE or suffer any sides?
 
My levels were low after a cycle but the pct was bogus and i never stayed off long enough to fully recover, was 33 at the time.

Estrogen issues is why i want to come off. I didn't have many problems the first 3 years or so but recently had high e2 probs confirmed by bloods. I take 0.25 adex wk on 200-250mg and its hit and miss. Sometimes it gets too low and can't tell the difference between high and low e2 without bloods which is a pain in the ass just having to get dialed in so would rather just see if i can recover naturally.

Nhs trt is also hit and miss and can't afford private.
 
If you are convinced your T will recover to a level that you are happy with, and that the next PCT won’t be ‘bogus’ as well... then go for it.

But maybe your E2 fluctuations are due to 200-250mg pw being slightly too high, and/or gear/AE being under/over dosed.

125mg E6D is perfect for me, but it’s early days, maybe that will change in 3 years, who knows.
 
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If you're coming off for good I'd look into the power PCT protocol and perhaps some HMG.
 
Thanks guys. I've been thinking about the following, i've read hcg shouldn't be used in pct.

Clomid 50mg 4wks and nolvadex to 20mg 30 days
Then clomid 25mg ed 4 wks
Clomid 12.5mg ed 4 wks
 
dasfx said:
Hey guys been on self medicated trt doses of 200-250mg wk and a few cycles the past 5 years. I'm 38 and thinking of coming off and doing a lengthy pct.

Could you guys advise me on what pct to do. I've read about a guy from the US recovered his natural test at the age of 42 doing an extended pct.
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Keep us updated of your progress I've been off over a year and my test only back to 11.4nmol and I only did cycles of 12 weeks and had a year off between cycles maybe I just need to pct again for longer but the old libido taken a hit good luck
 
Dorm3r said:
Keep us updated of your progress I've been off over a year and my test only back to 11.4nmol and I only did cycles of 12 weeks and had a year off between cycles maybe I just need to pct again for longer but the old libido taken a hit good luck
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How old are you?
How many cycles did you do?
What was your weekly mg dosage?
Is your current lifestyle the best it could be?
What is your E2?
What is your free T?
 
Johnsholtodouglas said:
How old are you?
How many cycles did you do?
What was your weekly mg dosage?
Is your current lifestyle the best it could be?
What is your E2?
What is your free T?
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I am 29
Done probs like 10 cycles over 8 year period but majority of them come in the first 3 years only done 2 or 3 cycles in last 5
My last cycle was 600mg test hep for 13 weeks with 50mg Nolva for 10 weeks of this
My last ESTRO check was 60pmol/L
And dr did request free test he has reffered me to an andrologist?
 
Dorm3r said:
I am 29
Done probs like 10 cycles over 8 year period but majority of them come in the first 3 years only done 2 or 3 cycles in last 5
My last cycle was 600mg test hep for 13 weeks with 50mg Nolva for 10 weeks of this
My last ESTRO check was 60pmol/L
And dr did request free test he has reffered me to an andrologist?
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With that in mind, and having been off gear for over a year... how do you feel generally, day-2-day, and what are your gains like in the gym etc?
 
Johnsholtodouglas said:
With that in mind, and having been off gear for over a year... how do you feel generally, day-2-day, and what are your gains like in the gym etc?
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I feel fine a little achy with joints but think that's just as I'm getting older only issue is libido is on low side only in mood twice week and more effort now days lol. And my muscle mass seems to be ok get good pumps have put on a bit of belly fat probs sitting at 18% and it just happends a lot easier.
 
I’d find out more about your E2, SHBG, and free T first.

Then, if you’re confident that your lifestyle, diet and training is as good as it should be/could be. Assess the results of the above and decide what you want to achieve...then you’ll be able to draw your own conclusion. [emoji106]
 
Johnsholtodouglas said:
I’d find out more about your E2, SHBG, and free T first.

Then, if you’re confident that your lifestyle, diet and training is as good as it should be/could be. Assess the results of the above and decide what you want to achieve...then you’ll be able to draw your own conclusion. [emoji106]
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Yeah been referred to have additional checks so will find out from there it really started after I had to use codeine for six months after a knee injury lol
 
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