My stack of osta and rad was what I would call a success I went from 166 to 179 with arguably a lower body fat at the end. Keep in mind that was after I lost 75 or so pounds so a good bit of muscle memory contribution to that. Only sides as expected dry rough joints specifically at the height of 15mg a day of each and suppression which subsided for the most part after titrating down.
Almost a month off now and I am winging up to give s23 the next try, this time I will be using DHEA along side it with boron and other stuff. DHEA has strong research to show good estrogen boosts in men being that DHEA can take 3 pathways. Interesting thing is 2 of those pathways lead to testosterone but for some unknown reason in men it usually takes the pathway to convert to E2 which is a good thing as all sarms nuke estrogen levels which lead to the very crappy sides. I do have arimistane on deck in case the E2 starts overwhelming the suppressed test levels but my bloods taken last week showed a 544 ng/dl test level which is in normal range. I am going to try to recover that for a few more weeks yet as s23 is supposedly the most suppressive sarm on market but imo people also use abysmal doses on it and imo people use sarms in general at doses that don't yield much more gains and only really amp up the sides.
I noticed this when I went down to 5mg of a mix of osta and rad vs 15mg of each. The gains were still rolling in and though for a week or so due to RADs halflife of 60 hours it would take time to decrease in my system the gains were coming ALMOST as fast as 15mg of each and the sides were non-existent. Granted I am rebuilding muscle I lost there could be a point of time that ceiling will be reached and the only way to keep walking forward will be higher dosages I may just stand in place instead my goal of 185 5'11 at around 10% bf is an awesome place to be in and idk if I'll really strive for more.
Once started I will be updating this thread with whats going on. Wish me luck!
Almost a month off now and I am winging up to give s23 the next try, this time I will be using DHEA along side it with boron and other stuff. DHEA has strong research to show good estrogen boosts in men being that DHEA can take 3 pathways. Interesting thing is 2 of those pathways lead to testosterone but for some unknown reason in men it usually takes the pathway to convert to E2 which is a good thing as all sarms nuke estrogen levels which lead to the very crappy sides. I do have arimistane on deck in case the E2 starts overwhelming the suppressed test levels but my bloods taken last week showed a 544 ng/dl test level which is in normal range. I am going to try to recover that for a few more weeks yet as s23 is supposedly the most suppressive sarm on market but imo people also use abysmal doses on it and imo people use sarms in general at doses that don't yield much more gains and only really amp up the sides.
I noticed this when I went down to 5mg of a mix of osta and rad vs 15mg of each. The gains were still rolling in and though for a week or so due to RADs halflife of 60 hours it would take time to decrease in my system the gains were coming ALMOST as fast as 15mg of each and the sides were non-existent. Granted I am rebuilding muscle I lost there could be a point of time that ceiling will be reached and the only way to keep walking forward will be higher dosages I may just stand in place instead my goal of 185 5'11 at around 10% bf is an awesome place to be in and idk if I'll really strive for more.
Once started I will be updating this thread with whats going on. Wish me luck!