Johnny E
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Whats the best for a PCT, clomid or nolva?
Both do diff things. Depends what your bloods say you need.Whats the best for a PCT, clomid or nolva?
Depends on your cycleWhats the best for a PCT, clomid or nolva?
Depends on your cycle
Compounds
Doses
Duration
And also how you tolerate each drug
Some people avoid clomid because of its side effects
Whats the best for a PCT, clomid or nolva?
They both work by the same mechanism. Nolva has less sides; anecdotally people say clomid works better at stimulating their hpta, although I've not seen any studies that confirm that.
I would just use nolva and run it for a good 45 days instead of the 4 weeks that's usually recommended. Hcg is far more important than serms for hpta recovery imo.
45 days is exactly one and a half packs. You end up using the same amount of drug as the old 40/40/20/20 recommendation but over a longer time frame. Works better with less sides. I agree that OP barely needs a pct, but 2 weeks is basically pointless imo.45 days? That's very specific mate. What's the reason for that time frame? PCT drugs are awful and it's a miserable time for anyone. The OP is only doing a 12 week low dose cycle. Some hcg (pre pct) and 2-4 weeks with clomid/nolva would be more than enough to kickstart the recovery process.
45 days is exactly one and a half packs. You end up using the same amount of drug as the old 40/40/20/20 recommendation but over a longer time frame. Works better with less sides. I agree that OP barely needs a pct, but 2 weeks is basically pointless imo.
The reason you associate serms with sides is because of those (in my opinion totally excessive) dosages. 20mg a day of nolva for 45 days causes zero issues for most people.We always hit PCT hard and fast for 2-4 weeks on early short cycles.
Week 1. 150 clomid/60 nolva.
Week 2. 100 clomid/40 nolva
Balls usually started to ache/throb by week 3 signalling kickstart had been achieved but if we needed to carry on we would go 50/20 for another 2 weeks maximum then stop.
Both awful drugs though. Especially clomid. Causes mental episodes and weird eyesight problems etc. Not a drug you want to use for long periods. Really messes with moods.
The reason you associate serms with sides is because of those (in my opinion totally excessive) dosages. 20mg a day of nolva for 45 days causes zero issues for most people.
If you think doing nolva AND clomid, at 3 times the amount I'm talking about is going to cause less sides just because you do it for a few weeks less is misguided imo
OP can make up his own mind though.
Try Clomifine and it you get sides switch to enclomifine it could have a lot less sides for you. I can’t use Nolva or Clomid they both have me contemplating life! Raloxifine is an alternative if you don’t get on with any of these but it’s not as effective for recovery.Whats the best for a PCT, clomid or nolva?