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Tren & Hypoglycaemia

Further to this I've upped by carbs and I'm not getting the hypo as much or as bad now. Blood tests came back all bang in the middle of 'normal' except slightly low sodium and calcium. He suggested I drank less water, told him it's never going to happen he suggest 2.5litres of water a day, I drink 1.5 training he said they might be low due to they're measure in saturation and lots of water will dilute them too much. My insulin is working excellent so no diabetes, cholesterol is perfect and so too are my liver, kidneys & thyroid.

He also said my cortisol is on the low side. Then asked the dreaded question, do you take steroids? I said I have in the past and never mentioned the test, tren, mast, LGD & cardarine going in right now. Might refer me to an endocrinologist, which I'm guessing will pick up on all the chemicals in my system. I thought having low cortisol was a good thing.

A few questions to you experienced guys:

How many here have been honest about their ped use to the doc?

Will the fact that I occasionally give blood show on my medical records? (a no no for ped users)

Will it affect my life insurance?

Can I disclose without it being logged on my records?

I assume once they know they''ll just point at that and dismiss me - unless he's a rare one who knows a little more than the biased views they tend to have.

 
Jack About said:
Further to this I've upped by carbs and I'm not getting the hypo as much or as bad now. Blood tests came back all bang in the middle of 'normal' except slightly low sodium and calcium. He suggested I drank less water, told him it's never going to happen he suggest 2.5litres of water a day, I drink 1.5 training he said they might be low due to they're measure in saturation and lots of water will dilute them too much. My insulin is working excellent so no diabetes, cholesterol is perfect and so too are my liver, kidneys & thyroid.

He also said my cortisol is on the low side. Then asked the dreaded question, do you take steroids? I said I have in the past and never mentioned the test, tren, mast, LGD & cardarine going in right now. Might refer me to an endocrinologist, which I'm guessing will pick up on all the chemicals in my system. I thought having low cortisol was a good thing.

A few questions to you experienced guys:

How many here have been honest about their ped use to the doc?

Will the fact that I occasionally give blood show on my medical records? (a no no for ped users)

Will it affect my life insurance?

Can I disclose without it being logged on my records?

I assume once they know they''ll just point at that and dismiss me - unless he's a rare one who knows a little more than the biased views they tend to have.
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Doctor has never asked, nor have I ever said, but he knows. I trained with his son who used PEDs, plus at a certain muscle mass it is kinda obvious, even to the dumbest.

I am unsure on this, if they can tie a medical condition to your usage, I would think they will note it.

A lot will blame roids for a cough, or a paper cut. Some are reasonable. I personally wouldn't disclose it.
 
Yep i get them..cant recall if specific to tren. But sweat like mad after training shaky etc..bang down sinple carbs etc..just want to fucking eat eat.
 
Jack About said:
Further to this I've upped by carbs and I'm not getting the hypo as much or as bad now. Blood tests came back all bang in the middle of 'normal' except slightly low sodium and calcium. He suggested I drank less water, told him it's never going to happen he suggest 2.5litres of water a day, I drink 1.5 training he said they might be low due to they're measure in saturation and lots of water will dilute them too much. My insulin is working excellent so no diabetes, cholesterol is perfect and so too are my liver, kidneys & thyroid.

He also said my cortisol is on the low side. Then asked the dreaded question, do you take steroids? I said I have in the past and never mentioned the test, tren, mast, LGD & cardarine going in right now. Might refer me to an endocrinologist, which I'm guessing will pick up on all the chemicals in my system. I thought having low cortisol was a good thing.

A few questions to you experienced guys:

How many here have been honest about their ped use to the doc?

Will the fact that I occasionally give blood show on my medical records? (a no no for ped users)

Will it affect my life insurance?

Can I disclose without it being logged on my records?

I assume once they know they''ll just point at that and dismiss me - unless he's a rare one who knows a little more than the biased views they tend to have.
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You can get all the symptoms of hypo without actually having it.
Went through it myself on a low carb diet a year or so back and got so bad I couldn't go in a restaurant as I looked like I took a shower if I ate a carb. If I didnt eat carbs I felt dizzy and sick.
Decided to go to the doctors and got a diabetes test but it came back all clear. Doc explained there's some sort of false hypo you can get if you screw around with diet. Upped carbs and after a couple of weeks the symptoms disappeared. I still get them if I go low carb though (especially the sweats).
 
Jack About said:
Further to this I've upped by carbs and I'm not getting the hypo as much or as bad now. Blood tests came back all bang in the middle of 'normal' except slightly low sodium and calcium. He suggested I drank less water, told him it's never going to happen he suggest 2.5litres of water a day, I drink 1.5 training he said they might be low due to they're measure in saturation and lots of water will dilute them too much. My insulin is working excellent so no diabetes, cholesterol is perfect and so too are my liver, kidneys & thyroid.

He also said my cortisol is on the low side. Then asked the dreaded question, do you take steroids? I said I have in the past and never mentioned the test, tren, mast, LGD & cardarine going in right now. Might refer me to an endocrinologist, which I'm guessing will pick up on all the chemicals in my system. I thought having low cortisol was a good thing.

A few questions to you experienced guys:

How many here have been honest about their ped use to the doc?

Will the fact that I occasionally give blood show on my medical records? (a no no for ped users)

Will it affect my life insurance?

Can I disclose without it being logged on my records?

I assume once they know they''ll just point at that and dismiss me - unless he's a rare one who knows a little more than the biased views they tend to have.
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Suprised your kidney tests came back fine. ..anyone with above average muscle mass will have tests showing large amounts of creatine.

Whenever I've had my tests done that's what's come back one dr said it's a warning the other dr told me it's nothing it's to do with my muscle mass and not to worry
 
Swole29 said:
Suprised your kidney tests came back fine. ..anyone with above average muscle mass will have tests showing large amounts of creatine.

Whenever I've had my tests done that's what's come back one dr said it's a warning the other dr told me it's nothing it's to do with my muscle mass and not to worry
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Wonder which one u beilved hahaha
 
The Cheese said:
You can get all the symptoms of hypo without actually having it.
Went through it myself on a low carb diet a year or so back and got so bad I couldn't go in a restaurant as I looked like I took a shower if I ate a carb. If I didnt eat carbs I felt dizzy and sick.
Decided to go to the doctors and got a diabetes test but it came back all clear. Doc explained there's some sort of false hypo you can get if you screw around with diet. Upped carbs and after a couple of weeks the symptoms disappeared. I still get them if I go low carb though (especially the sweats).
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Non diabetic hypoglycaemia I believe it's called. Had it on a plane once I looked like a suicide bomber, bald head, bead and dark skin sweating buckets the guy sat next to me got up and went to the back of the plane. :lol:

Swole29 said:
Suprised your kidney tests came back fine. ..anyone with above average muscle mass will have tests showing large amounts of creatine.

Whenever I've had my tests done that's what's come back one dr said it's a warning the other dr told me it's nothing it's to do with my muscle mass and not to worry
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They did say slightly elevated but still in the normal range
 
Jack About said:
Non diabetic hypoglycaemia I believe it's called. Had it on a plane once I looked like a suicide bomber, bald head, bead and dark skin sweating buckets the guy sat next to me got up and went to the back of the plane. :lol:
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Can't remember for sure but I believe that most of the sweating can be put down to the body dumping extra insulin into the system.
 
Jack About said:
Further to this I've upped by carbs and I'm not getting the hypo as much or as bad now. Blood tests came back all bang in the middle of 'normal' except slightly low sodium and calcium. He suggested I drank less water, told him it's never going to happen he suggest 2.5litres of water a day, I drink 1.5 training he said they might be low due to they're measure in saturation and lots of water will dilute them too much. My insulin is working excellent so no diabetes, cholesterol is perfect and so too are my liver, kidneys & thyroid.

He also said my cortisol is on the low side. Then asked the dreaded question, do you take steroids? I said I have in the past and never mentioned the test, tren, mast, LGD & cardarine going in right now. Might refer me to an endocrinologist, which I'm guessing will pick up on all the chemicals in my system. I thought having low cortisol was a good thing.

A few questions to you experienced guys:

How many here have been honest about their ped use to the doc?

Will the fact that I occasionally give blood show on my medical records? (a no no for ped users)

Will it affect my life insurance?

Can I disclose without it being logged on my records?

I assume once they know they''ll just point at that and dismiss me - unless he's a rare one who knows a little more than the biased views they tend to have.
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If I told you that no, your gear use will not in validate your life insurance, would you believe me or would you go and read the t and c's?
 
Jack About said:
Non diabetic hypoglycaemia I believe it's called. Had it on a plane once I looked like a suicide bomber, bald head, bead and dark skin sweating buckets the guy sat next to me got up and went to the back of the plane. :lol:



They did say slightly elevated but still in the normal range
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Read into reactive hypoglycaemia. I believe this is what most get especially people like us who train , diet n take supps
 
roy@/_ said:
If I told you that no, your gear use will not in validate your life insurance, would you believe me or would you go and read the t and c's?
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No need to read the T n C all.

I can clarify it Defo does or has done with people recently.
 
Hilly said:
No need to read the T n C all.

I can clarify it Defo does or has done with people recently.
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Fair one mate.

I was somewhat sarcastically making the point that with things like this it's funny that people might take the word of online friends...what with it being a fairly major thing to fuck up on.

It's a bit like the drug test one...will I be sound on Monday of I get on it Friday, jobs at stake you see. Yer mate fine crack on...sweet cheers. Lol.
 
doink said:
A lot of this reactive hypo can purely be from using simple carbs pre activity.

You'll get a spike in insulin as you consume them, then the exercise can cause a drop in blood sugar on top. Together it's a recipe for a mild hypo episode.

Imagine any type of carb could do it but I've only ever experienced it with simple carbs or when using DNP.
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Also Bg spikes can cause the body to secrete more slin than it actually needs to clear the incoming glucose. Residual insulin, no glucose, exercise as you say.....
 
Insulin is very sensitive over the past 4 month markers they test for. Rarely eat simple carbs other than when hypo. I've upped my carbs and my workload has slacked off a bit and no episodes recently, I'll just have to keep tweaking the carbs as and when the workload increases again.

Thanks for the replies, and no I won't be divulging my ped use to the doc although the gym owner has and is given regular check ups etc but he competes and maybe has a good relationship with his doc.
 
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