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Y'all never had freedoms in the first place. All COVID's done is put that fact front and centre.

Government and the rich class are getting richer, and everybody else has to suffer the consequences of getting poorer. It's the only way they can accumulate such wealth - and now they've decided it's time for them to collect, y'all don't like it.

They're playing you for fools getting you believing in all this left vs right bullshit. The whole idea of elitism and hierarchy stems from right wing philosophy, yet people are now claiming it's the left who think they should be treated best: that's how blind they have become with all this left vs right bullshit.

Government and the rich class are fucking you over AND enjoying watching you all get suckered into the same old story.
this me? Because I stand by that 100% the extremes of both the left and right are identical in their ideologies.

The rest of what you’re saying is correct. However I’m not sure what it has to do with the general public who are left or right minded. - which is what I’m talking about.
Government wise there isn’t a left or right wing. Just a massive flying arsehole shitting on the rest of us.
 
And FYI, I’m not anti left, or right. I am against the extremes of either side though. Typically I’m left leaning centrist
 
And FYI, I’m not anti left, or right. I am against the extremes of either side though. Typically I’m left leaning centrist


Funny that, you definitely don't come across as one... What you wrote was the exact same thing that right wing fan boys are saying right now, so it must have been sheer coincidence.
 
this me? Because I stand by that 100% the extremes of both the left and right are identical in their ideologies.

The rest of what you’re saying is correct. However I’m not sure what it has to do with the general public who are left or right minded. - which is what I’m talking about.

I don't see it that way. I see right wing definitely all about hierarchy and the left wing all about equality. That's not to say the extremes on both ends of the spectrum aren't similar in that they're both fucking dumb, but I see their ideologies being quintessentially different, even though their means of achieving them might be very alike.

But again, that's all part of the plan. Get the plebs fighting amongst each other so they can't see the real enemy standing right in front of them.

Government wise there isn’t a left or right wing. Just a massive flying arsehole shitting on the rest of us.

Case in point.
 
Funny that, you definitely don't come across as one... What you wrote was the exact same thing that right wing fan boys are saying right now, so it must have been sheer coincidence.
what exactly that I said is wrong? Is someone having a point of view that differs from the main stream justifiable grounds for a witch hunt and costing themselves and their families financial hardship by trying to get them sacked? The exact example I’m referring to is the teacher who said folk shouldn’t be afraid COVID. People want him sacked for it.
Are you saying these people aren’t on the extreme left, or that it’s justifiable that he should be sacked?
 
I don't see it that way. I see right wing definitely all about hierarchy and the left wing all about equality. That's not to say the extremes on both ends of the spectrum aren't similar in that they're both fucking dumb, but I see their ideologies being quintessentially different, even though their means of achieving them might be very alike.

But again, that's all part of the plan. Get the plebs fighting amongst each other so they can't see the real enemy standing right in front of them.



Case in point.

This is my issue. It seems to be equality unless you disagree with their political narrative in any way shape or form, then there’s a witch hunt. There’s a hypocrisy among the extremes of the left. True equality is acceptance that people have different views not just views that align with their own.
 
what exactly that I said is wrong? Is someone having a point of view that differs from the main stream justifiable grounds for a witch hunt and costing themselves and their families financial hardship by trying to get them sacked? The exact example I’m referring to is the teacher who said folk shouldn’t be afraid COVID. People want him sacked for it.
Are you saying these people aren’t on the extreme left, or that it’s justifiable that he should be sacked?


Nothing you said is wrong. It's your opinion and you're entitled to it. You just looked like you were only singling out lefties whereas there's plenty that could have been said about the right wing. It didn't come across as very balanced, that's all I'm saying.

Of course, anybody who is trying to get another person sacked because of something they typed on a computer is in the wrong and not adhering to the spirit of free speech. There's an argument for and against a teacher saying such things when they're in a position of responsibility like that, but to go so far as to sack them, no. Just have a word with them if you must and move on.

The people doing the complaining could be left or right or neither. It's besides the point. The point is not to look at things in terms of left and right.
 
This is my issue. It seems to be equality unless you disagree with their political narrative in any way shape or form, then there’s a witch hunt. There’s a hypocrisy among the extremes of the left. True equality is acceptance that people have different views not just views that align with their own.


Yeah, we could say the exact same thing about the extremes of the right. But I'll go one step further and say the extremes of the right will not just shun views that don't align with their own, but races too. We could be here all night...

From where I'm standing, the extremes of both left and right are coming up with dumb things. Look at how the right is talking about conspiracies which anyone with half a brain can disprove.

All this talk about government control through vaccines. Believe me, they don't need that - they've already got y'all by the balls.

Even funnier when I read these comments on here. Members won't have any problem injecting underground gear full of floaters made in a rusty old container in someone's back garden or in a bathroom tub, yet all of a sudden have big problems with a vaccine being made in a state-of-the-art laboratory.
 
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CGVFZ28D2_9/?igshid=6xpok1u193kw

Bodytech Fitness Liverpool just got their first £1k fine and got sent multiple armed response units. Disgraceful.

Nathan De Asha has been making IG vids saying he will remain open but I don't know what gym he owns/part owns etc.
Fair play to the fellas

Utterly disgraceful imo

Will go add some brass to the go fund me. I’d like to help them out with the fines a bit if I can. We need to back people like this who are willing to make a stand against this nonsense
 
Yeah, we could say the exact same thing about the extremes of the right. But I'll go one step further and say the extremes of the right will not just shun views that don't align with their own, but races too. We could be here all night...

From where I'm standing, the extremes of both left and right are coming up with dumb things. Look at how the right is talking about conspiracies which anyone with half a brain can disprove.

All this talk about government control through vaccines. Believe me, they don't need that - they've already got y'all by the balls.

Even funnier when I read these comments on here. Members won't have any problem injecting underground gear full of floaters made in a rusty old container in someone's back garden or in a bathroom tub, yet all of a sudden have big problems with a vaccine being made in a state-of-the-art laboratory.
It wasn’t a balanced opinion on where the extremes of left and right are correct or incorrect because that’s not what the conversation is about. It’s about covid (how a virus has become so political is another laughing matter, but it seems to be) and my point is/was that how the left are totally out of order in my opinion with how they handle people who disagree with them on this subject- and they seem to handle it with fear ( of losing jobs etc) and intimidation by ganging up.
The ‘the right are worse - they’re racist’ defence doesn’t really excuse any of that so I see no need to make a comparison.
There are as many things wrong with the extreme left ideology as the rights. But that’s for another thread not this one.
 
It wasn’t a balanced opinion on where the extremes of left and right are correct or incorrect because that’s not what the conversation is about. It’s about covid (how a virus has become so political is another laughing matter, but it seems to be) and my point is/was that how the left are totally out of order in my opinion with how they handle people who disagree with them on this subject- and they seem to handle it with fear ( of losing jobs etc) and intimidation by ganging up.
The ‘the right are worse - they’re racist’ defence doesn’t really excuse any of that so I see no need to make a comparison.
There are as many things wrong with the extreme left ideology as the rights. But that’s for another thread not this one.


You say it yourself: it's about COVID. And that's what I'm asking you to not lose sight of.

Anybody who didn't see COVID coming clearly wasn't interested in seeing the great big writing on the wall. Humanity has had pandemics throughout history. Scientists have been warning that something like this was on the way - they were predicting it with chilling accuracy just months before in fact. Yet everybody carried on business as usual thinking it wouldn't happen. Governments made zero preparation and that's why we are where we are. Has nothing to do with lefties ganging up on other people and if people really believe that's even 1% of the problem, they are being shortsighted at best.

If you really feel aggrieved about the lefties, then I suggest you should direct that towards the government instead. They're the ones who ignored the warnings and focused instead in filling their fat pockets. They are the ones who have created a climate where police are wading into peoples' businesses and into their homes or where lefties can grass people up in the first place.

Had the government been doing the very job they assured us they were doing, there wouldn't have needed to be a lockdown in the first place.

If proper investment was put into hospitals, then we wouldn't have needed to worry about a lack of hospital beds nor would they have had to ask people to stay at home.

If proper investment was put into fighting diseases, then we would likely have an infrastructure which could isolate and control outbreaks, we wouldn't be running out of equipment and testing, and we'd have a much better understanding of how to fight new viruses.

But no, we put the investment into Trident and Brexit and other half-baked bullshit schemes and scams that the government say are essential for our way of living.

How's that way of living going now? Not very well, thanks to the government. And the more you point the finger towards anyone but them, the more they will continue to take the piss out of you.
 
You say it yourself: it's about COVID. And that's what I'm asking you to not lose sight of.

Anybody who didn't see COVID coming clearly wasn't interested in seeing the great big writing on the wall. Humanity has had pandemics throughout history. Scientists have been warning that something like this was on the way - they were predicting it with chilling accuracy just months before in fact. Yet everybody carried on business as usual thinking it wouldn't happen. Governments made zero preparation and that's why we are where we are. Has nothing to do with lefties ganging up on other people and if people really believe that's even 1% of the problem, they are being shortsighted at best.

If you really feel aggrieved about the lefties, then I suggest you should direct that towards the government instead. They're the ones who ignored the warnings and focused instead in filling their fat pockets. They are the ones who have created a climate where police are wading into peoples' businesses and into their homes or where lefties can grass people up in the first place.

Had the government been doing the very job they assured us they were doing, there wouldn't have needed to be a lockdown in the first place.

If proper investment was put into hospitals, then we wouldn't have needed to worry about a lack of hospital beds nor would they have had to ask people to stay at home.

If proper investment was put into fighting diseases, then we would likely have an infrastructure which could isolate and control outbreaks, we wouldn't be running out of equipment and testing, and we'd have a much better understanding of how to fight new viruses.

But no, we put the investment into Trident and Brexit and other half-baked bullshit schemes and scams that the government say are essential for our way of living.

How's that way of living going now? Not very well, thanks to the government. And the more you point the finger towards anyone but them, the more they will continue to take the piss out of you.
look, we agree 100% on how shit the government are and how much we are all being fucked over. Brexit and trident included. But the actions of one do not excuse the actions of others. It’s fine saying point the fingers at them rather than anyone else (left or right members of the public) but if everyone doesn’t agree we are being fucked then there’s only going to be one side pointing the finger. - only it’s worse than that as one side is pointing the finger and the other side is waging theirs in disgust.
What bemuses me is that it’s the left waging their fingers in disgust while the right are disgusted with the treatment they’re getting - n it was them who voted for the fuckin arseholes in the first place.

Then there’s the curious case of Scotland. Everything sturgeon does gets slated by unionists even when Boris does the exact same thing but they love him. And the pro Indy hang on her every word.
Which is why I could never claim to be either right of left wing. I can’t get my head around that people actually agree with everything one side says and totally disagree with everything the other side says.
 
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