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Mike has a PHD, Gregg has a basic degree in kinesiology. Mike has based all of the Renaissance programs on James Kriegers and Schoenfelds work on volume and frequency that they have both given a seal of approval to. Renaissance Periodisation now has a client list in the millions and plenty showing off what they've done with it. Gregg has no grasp of what RPE means and even made an utter arse of himself when trying to argue that the volume study only worked cos they didn't train hard enough. Which is basically a roundabout way of in fact confirming the study findings that more volume = less non responders. Non responders being caused by a whole host of shit, so its a wonderful safety net. Mike is able to apply contextual thought to training, where its a give and take scenario, whereas Gregg screeches train harder or offers some other vague anecdote then bangs on about his obscure record and 97432 shows.

Assuming you're training 100% all the time, your RPE regulates proximity to failure in line with fatigue. You're known peak volumes are based on your own overreaching data so falls anywhere in the ranges I posted previously from Kriegers work. Gregg has no program that uses current best case programming and most his programs read like an 80s fitness mag. They are however high enough in volume that they work.......cos volume.

When it comes to programming size progression, who gives a flying fuck about someone's diet or ultimately what they look like when what they're saying is proven on multiple occasions by 3rd parties? Half the best coaches look like shit or achieved nothing world beating in strength. They're the best coaches because they understand and evolve.

Remember greggs little beef with fouad about how many cals to eat? And then Ian valliere comes in and says that why I dropped him, I knew I wouldn't get the size with gregg. Gregg releasing his video claiming it was cos Ian would learn more with a different coach. Hardly glowing endorsement of knowledge from someone who is right 99.9% of the time.

Gregg is a meme.

This is getting way off track but to say Greg's info is useless is an actual ridiculous claim especially coming from a guy that struggles keeping his diet under control and copied and pasted studies from Google and says "I'm right and you're stupid because x study" when that study could be on menopausal woman.

Greg has great info, whether you disagree or not. Fouad believes in dirty bulking and ridiculous stuff that's shown to not help very much with muscle gains and then you lose muscle dieting the fat you gain off.

PhD doesn't always mean = real world knowledge. There are PhD holders out there in exercise that have outrageous beliefs and are sitting around 40 pounds overweight telling you to dirty bulk to build muscle or GTFO.

Ridiculous notions.
 
Agree if it was a a hard workout with say
Deadlits
Squats
Bench press
Hard with heavy weights given that the guy says he´s 61 i doubt it. He´s totally against any weight training. As i wrote i said please show us so we can learn/judge this training. post it up with a video. Banned. seems he´s an old Queer who invited another guy to his house for drinks & "sparring" when i asked what happened, "oh he got aggressive" so banned too.
He´s from Manchster (apparently)

Where about in Manchester does this old queer live ? ...... my mate want to know
 
This is getting way off track but to say Greg's info is useless is an actual ridiculous claim especially coming from a guy that struggles keeping his diet under control and copied and pasted studies from Google and says "I'm right and you're stupid because x study" when that study could be on menopausal woman.

Greg has great info, whether you disagree or not. Fouad believes in dirty bulking and ridiculous stuff that's shown to not help very much with muscle gains and then you lose muscle dieting the fat you gain off.

PhD doesn't always mean = real world knowledge. There are PhD holders out there in exercise that have outrageous beliefs and are sitting around 40 pounds overweight telling you to dirty bulk to build muscle or GTFO.

Ridiculous notions.
I dont think it's fully correct to say Fouad believes in 'dirty bulking'. From listening to his podcasts and watching his YT videos from as far back as when he was barely well known and scraping by financially I'd say his chain of thought is:

Fouad - eat enough in the off season to grow, add some fat but not unhealthily large amounts, accept you might gain 20-30lbs of weight for 10lbs of muscle.

Greg - eat barely above maintenance gain gain 10lbs of weight for 2lbs of muscle and look good year round.

Those figures are representative of their diet strategies not actual numbers.

Greg's philosophy suits classic or smaller guys that want to look good year round. Sacrificing gains but look and feel better.

Fouad's philosophy is more suited to open bodybuilding where size really does need to be maximised.

Just my opinion and I watch them both on YT. Fouad for me is more 'real', Greg more entertaining. Altho I do like Greg's videos on compounds. Greg looks good albeit 220lbs at 5ft 6 or 7 year round. That's not overly big.

I have to say I hated Greg's training program which someone circulated on here. His cook book was informative and had some good meals. 100 dollars for it is too much, glad mine was free.

Also Greg charges 36k a year for coaching. That's more than aceto, rambod, Chad Nichols etc. It's a laughable sum.
 
I dont think it's fully correct to say Fouad believes in 'dirty bulking'. From listening to his podcasts and watching his YT videos from as far back as when he was barely well known and scraping by financially I'd say his chain of thought is:

Fouad - eat enough in the off season to grow, add some fat but not unhealthily large amounts, accept you might gain 20-30lbs of weight for 10lbs of muscle.

Greg - eat barely above maintenance gain gain 10lbs of weight for 2lbs of muscle and look good year round.

Those figures are representative of their diet strategies not actual numbers.

Greg's philosophy suits classic or smaller guys that want to look good year round. Sacrificing gains but look and feel better.

Fouad's philosophy is more suited to open bodybuilding where size really does need to be maximised.

Just my opinion and I watch them both on YT. Fouad for me is more 'real', Greg more entertaining. Altho I do like Greg's videos on compounds. Greg looks good albeit 220lbs at 5ft 6 or 7 year round. That's not overly big.

I have to say I hated Greg's training program which someone circulated on here. His cook book was informative and had some good meals. 100 dollars for it is too much, glad mine was free.

Also Greg charges 36k a year for coaching. That's more than aceto, rambod, Chad Nichols etc. It's a laughable sum.

Fouad, Mike isratel, Greg doucette, mpmd, jeff nippard, athlean, vegan gains all have useful info to give. I have problems with some of the priors specific beliefs but they are smart guys all around with advice that will lead to changes in whoever follows it so I'm not gonna be mad or tell you that you should only listen to one I think that's a mistake.

Yeah greg seems to give advice more tailored to just the average guy trying to look good, mike and fouad more so tailored to guys trying to get some size and mass. Greg did used to give more bodybuilder type advice a few years back especially towards supplements like you mentioned but now he even said he's trying to maximize his life span vs muscle and is just coasting on the TRT thus the information has changed quite a bit but still useful stuff.

So yeah excuse my bias there on the whole "dirty bulk", thing and speaking on it like it's a huge negative. It can be a positive depending on what you are looking for. Obviously I have more of a greg mindset of trying to put on some muscle and stay fairly lean not necessarily pack on tons of muscle. Honestly just happy to even be in shape after a good 4-5 years of being 35%+ bf lmao.
 
I dont think it's fully correct to say Fouad believes in 'dirty bulking'. From listening to his podcasts and watching his YT videos from as far back as when he was barely well known and scraping by financially I'd say his chain of thought is:

Fouad - eat enough in the off season to grow, add some fat but not unhealthily large amounts, accept you might gain 20-30lbs of weight for 10lbs of muscle.

Greg - eat barely above maintenance gain gain 10lbs of weight for 2lbs of muscle and look good year round.

Those figures are representative of their diet strategies not actual numbers.

Greg's philosophy suits classic or smaller guys that want to look good year round. Sacrificing gains but look and feel better.

Fouad's philosophy is more suited to open bodybuilding where size really does need to be maximised.

Just my opinion and I watch them both on YT. Fouad for me is more 'real', Greg more entertaining. Altho I do like Greg's videos on compounds. Greg looks good albeit 220lbs at 5ft 6 or 7 year round. That's not overly big.

I have to say I hated Greg's training program which someone circulated on here. His cook book was informative and had some good meals. 100 dollars for it is too much, glad mine was free.

Also Greg charges 36k a year for coaching. That's more than aceto, rambod, Chad Nichols etc. It's a laughable sum.
36k Jesus where do they find these people?

A fool and his money are easily parted but come on. Surely it can't be the allure of 'IFBB Pro' before his name or that pitch of tone in his voice where his balls clearly still haven't dropped?

Is that the most expensive BB coach out there do you reckon?
 
I don’t take advice off any cunt regarding training tbh

I’m surprised people who’ve been in the game as long as most of us have do. I don’t need somebody to tell me what to do in the gym.
Especially if we’re talking training for hypertrophy. Peaking your strength is an art form and requires a lot of knowledge (I feel like I’ve come on a lot in the last year in this regard)

Tearing down muscle for growth is simple. As long as you take the odd day here and there to pull it back so you don’t bury yourself your hard pressed to fuck it up imo
 
its all down to what you can recover from the harder you train the more timeneeded for recovery simple
 
is he not the guy who screams like a fucking idiot all the time? sorry but can´t listen to his rantings.

Yeah I can see people tuning out because of his voice. In his old videos he would talk very calm and go super in depth about different compounds. Literally watched every video he has on different anabolics he's practically covered all of them with low/no intentions of taking any of them in my life lmao.
 
can´t really comment on his advices he gives but comes ove
Yeah I can see people tuning out because of his voice. In his old videos he would talk very calm and go super in depth about different compounds. Literally watched every video he has on different anabolics he's practically covered all of them with low/no intentions of taking any of them in my life lmao.
The guy is annoying TBH. seems to think he´s the Guru. Remember he had arguements wit Lee Priest. I doubt he can tell a guy like priest anything.
 
In 20 years from now we'll look back and laugh at how little these guys knew about bodybuilding and how off the mark they were on so many aspects of training and nutrition.

Sorry to burst anyone's bubble but that's facts.

A whole industry has been borne out of people chatting shit on YouTube quoting this study or that study to support their ever-changing beliefs. The reality is that the human body has been designed, and has evolved over 100,000 years to work hard on a daily basis. And I mean extremely hard.

So that means if there is anything such as optimal training then we're talking about 7 days a week. If not then 6 days with one day for full recovery.

The human body is much more capable than people give it credit for. All this adrenal overload is complete bullshit based on outdated science. Work out hard and your body will eventually figure out a way to handle that load.

It's the body that performs the necessary magic, not the bodybuilding magazine article or the YouTube Internet celebrity.

Work out 6 days of the week and you'll look like a person who works out 6 days a week.

Work out 1 day of the week and you'll look like you work out 1 day of the week. No matter the routine.

Sometimes people overthink this shit too much.
 
Ah so I should listen to Mike isratel and do RPE and deloads every month and 3 people like that post. I see how training is viewed here now.

Also still never said 3-4 is optimal for everyone would require me to say "it's optimal for everyone" I said "it's optimal".

Please post some data that rpe and deloads are more effective than training to failure when Mike himself said training to failure could "promote more muscle hypertrophy" at times as well in the debate vs Greg doucette.

I'd need to see better info from you before taking your word over Greg or Jeff. You can't even get your diet under control and copy and paste stuff from Google. I like people that practice what they preach.

mike Israel is about the size of a gummy bear in real life..... I saw him the other weekend at Olympia and he must be 4ft11 in heels and not impressive in person AT ALL.... my bird has a bigger back... plus he and his gang wandered around the gym like a bunch of up their arse peacocks with less muscle than half the bikini girls at Olympia.... another reason to not put too much stock in experts sometimes.... he manages to project well on IG using some good angles
 
This is getting way off track but to say Greg's info is useless is an actual ridiculous claim especially coming from a guy that struggles keeping his diet under control and copied and pasted studies from Google and says "I'm right and you're stupid because x study" when that study could be on menopausal woman.

Greg has great info, whether you disagree or not. Fouad believes in dirty bulking and ridiculous stuff that's shown to not help very much with muscle gains and then you lose muscle dieting the fat you gain off.

PhD doesn't always mean = real world knowledge. There are PhD holders out there in exercise that have outrageous beliefs and are sitting around 40 pounds overweight telling you to dirty bulk to build muscle or GTFO.

Ridiculous notions.

Fouad is a far far superior BB to greg douchette....... not even the same level at all...hes placed at an Arnold.... as for dirty bulking if you listen to what he actually says he is not just dirty bulking at all he is adding the extra calories on top.... (he also makes out that his 80/20 is in pro BB terms, so his idea of an off plan meal is rotisserie chicken or sushi) looking forward to the studies you have on muscle building whilst using 4grams plus of gear and slin and HGH....will be waiting a while.... Fouad has added more muscle to his frame than Greg weigh (well sort of but you get my drift)..... Gregs voice is annoying and he is pretty arrogant too. Fouad comes across extremely well and has walked the walk at the top level. One guy is talking about BB the other about staying lean and generally trying to flog his book and training
 
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