Trt Enanthate Vs Sustanon

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Sim47

Hi all,

I've been injecting Enanthate for a few years now and I'm just about to order another 12 months supply.

I take 0.5ml per week so it's in line with a TRT dose and I aim to keep my test level at the high end of normal. Does anyone have any experience or views regarding the use of Sustanon instead of Enanthate? Irrespective of whether I use Enanthate or Sustanon, I need to try something new as I can't get hold of the test I've bough for the last two years. So my second question is, can anyone suggest a good reliable lab for either Enanthate or Sustanon?

Thanks for you help.
 
I found sustanon a bit pippy compared to enanthate. I got better muscle mass gains from sustanon. Plus with su you can pin once per week. I get my gear from china alibaba.
 
Thanks for dropping a reply. You'll have to excuse my ignorance here mate, pippy? On balance, which did you find is best as a long term solution?

Thanks again!
 
Post Injection Pain. - pip

never saw any difference that I could measure between either sus or E, and E can also be pinned 1 per week.
 
no difference bar having a mix of esters vs just one....

better muscle gains ? they are both just test... if both are real there will be no difference in the real world...the only possible would be the very start of cycle when using sust due to the prop being in faster but its negligible... its all just test so there won't be any difference bar personal preference, supply/cost issues.
 
Wasn’t sust designed so you didn’t have to inject as often?

if the test is legit it’s legit. Only difference between the waters is the regularity of injections really. (And a teeny amount of free hormone)
 
G-G said:
Wasn’t sust designed so you didn’t have to inject as often?

if the test is legit it’s legit. Only difference between the waters is the regularity of injections really. (And a teeny amount of free hormone)
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Yeah but it doesn't seem to play out that way. They sort of balanced half lives but it doesn't take into account the actual pharmacokinetics. Sust hits hard for the first few days then drops like a fart. Sust is great 2x per week but I think I prefer the steadier decay of cyp or enan to the sust blend.

I home brewed a Prop + Cyp + deca blend before and really like that. Was 25 prop, 100 cyp, 200 deca and that felt rock solid over the week to the point I could do once every 10 days@150 and not feel that slump after day 5 or 6.
 
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this is probably not going to make a deal of sense but once you get going on a cycle isnt the ester going to become somewhat irrelevant unless prop.
Once a dose gets injected it starts falling away towards its half life then beyond, as the next one goes in you get the same effect, if you were to look at this as a graph you'd have a series of curves all overlapping one another but falling away. As you pin at a point before its dropped away entirely after a little while this will create a constant level that you don't dip below but with raised peaks when each shot first goes in.

u wot mate ? :confused:
 
Reacher said:
this is probably not going to make a deal of sense but once you get going on a cycle isnt the ester going to become somewhat irrelevant unless prop.
Once a dose gets injected it starts falling away towards its half life then beyond, as the next one goes in you get the same effect, if you were to look at this as a graph you'd have a series of curves all overlapping one another but falling away. As you pin at a point before its dropped away entirely after a little while this will create a constant level that you don't dip below but with raised peaks when each shot first goes in.

u wot mate ? :confused:
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The way I see that is
If you are on cycle and using way above natural levels, you'll not notice the drop as even at its low point you will still have more test than your body needs.
If using legit trt then some people may notice that drop as their levels become low if using infrequent injections, even if that's once pw
I do think its beneficial to pin more frequently if using trt, you would probably get away with using less
Its just not that practical
 
pooley1810 said:
The way I see that is
If you are on cycle and using way above natural levels, you'll not notice the drop as even at its low point you will still have more test than your body needs.
If using legit trt then some people may notice that drop as their levels become low if using infrequent injections, even if that's once pw
I do think its beneficial to pin more frequently if using trt, you would probably get away with using less
Its just not that practical
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Seen some do 10-15mg test prop a day and feel fantastic on it administered sub q. In an ideal world, I'd guess that's probably as close as you can get to reflecting your body's natural release of test (appreciate your body's release isn't one bolus dose per day as replacing it with test prop would be).
 
Sjundea said:
Seen some do 10-15mg test prop a day and feel fantastic on it administered sub q. In an ideal world, I'd guess that's probably as close as you can get to reflecting your body's natural release of test (appreciate your body's release isn't one bolus dose per day as replacing it with test prop would be).
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I've also seen test e being used as it maintains a steadier level
But even a legit trt that puts your levels mid range is unnatural really as you're maintaining a constant level on a day to day basis
Natural t fluctuates due to so many factors, you overtrain, miss sleep etc on trt and still keep your test good
I think that's why its such a well discussed topic in sport
 
agree in principal and although never tried it the idea of 10 / 15 mg of prop a day sounds like it would be great, like a Tom cat with 3 balls :)

got to say though and this is purely based on my own experience, my trt now is 1000mg nebido every 8 weeks. There is a little drop off in mood etc but minimal around the last 2 weeks but nothing that you'd notice unless looking for it. Been on nebido for easily 5+ years and over 18 months now of purely trt nothing added in so nothing clouding the feels. Its all going to be individual to each person i guess but for trt purposes I don't have any complaints with nebido at all. Think those that do are really looking to support blast n cruise or just running a steroid cycle dressed up as trt.
 
Reacher said:
agree in principal and although never tried it the idea of 10 / 15 mg of prop a day sounds like it would be great, like a Tom cat with 3 balls :)

got to say though and this is purely based on my own experience, my trt now is 1000mg nebido every 8 weeks. There is a little drop off in mood etc but minimal around the last 2 weeks but nothing that you'd notice unless looking for it. Been on nebido for easily 5+ years and over 18 months now of purely trt nothing added in so nothing clouding the feels. Its all going to be individual to each person i guess but for trt purposes I don't have any complaints with nebido at all. Think those that do are really looking to support blast n cruise or just running a steroid cycle dressed up as trt.
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Just shows how different things can work and that's great that protocol works for you
Nebido takes a very long time to maintain a steady level and you've obviously been patient enough to get things right
Most people want instant results though, they wanna feel good now and aren't prepared to trial and error for 2 years
And for anybody doing it off the back of using gear, its muscle retention therapy
 
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