Aleksandr
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Ok I'm with. I understand. I will not add Dbol to my first cycle. I will tell to my friend that I want to just continue with test only because it's no good for the first cycle.
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Aleksandr
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Thanks everyone for replying me and helping me out.
I decided not to take Dbol for my first cycle.
By the way I'm eating now 4k callories a day feeling very good getting stronger and bigger bit by bit.
Tmuscle forum forever!))
Respect.
I decided not to take Dbol for my first cycle.
By the way I'm eating now 4k callories a day feeling very good getting stronger and bigger bit by bit.
Tmuscle forum forever!))
Respect.
SVR
Full Member
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That 2.6k diet you sent the other day would have made your first cycle a waste in terms of getting bigger
Well done mate eating the 4k calls is the best thing you done if you want to add size,
That 2.6k diet you sent the other day would have made your first cycle a waste in terms of getting bigger
Greedy Ben
Top Contributor
Wk 3 is still early days, stay as you are and learn how your body reacts to the raised test level.
The effects will plateau at some point but I'd say you are better just to up the test slightly then rather than add anything else. If you do, push the cals a bit more too.
You can stay on test if you wish it's your call but better to lower the dose to a minimal amount (as in 'blast & cruise') or come off completely and pct (or not of course as it's your call).
You don't really want to be running any orals long term hence why adding another injectible is often favoured to try and reduce stress on liver, kidneys and more importantly appetite.
The effects will plateau at some point but I'd say you are better just to up the test slightly then rather than add anything else. If you do, push the cals a bit more too.
You can stay on test if you wish it's your call but better to lower the dose to a minimal amount (as in 'blast & cruise') or come off completely and pct (or not of course as it's your call).
You don't really want to be running any orals long term hence why adding another injectible is often favoured to try and reduce stress on liver, kidneys and more importantly appetite.
Aleksandr
Full Member
Okey that's very interesting.
So basically I can just lower the test on my pct ? Will I still need tamoxifen?
So u saying it's better to forget about orals and just use injectables only?
Greedy Ben
Top Contributor
It's not pct it's staying on
You need to look into the implications/risks etc.
Orals have their place, they work quicker and produce effects quicker by their very nature but most injectibles have less overall sides from what I know.
Aleksandr
Full Member
Yes that exactly what I was thinking of. Doing pct or just making sort of bridge between cycles on test or doing pct with little bit of anavar and mk 677 to create bridge or just normal pct. Cause I am opened to as many cycles as I can do with minimal effective doses and then moving forward to find out what I can take maximum. In order words all the way up before I will do TRT.It's not pct it's staying on
You need to look into the implications/risks etc.
Orals have their place, they work quicker and produce effects quicker by their very nature but most injectibles have less overall sides from what I know.
My 2 cents.
don’t do pct. you’re posts are all about drugs and it’s obvious to me you’ll be back on before you’re actually off so why bother trying to “recover” just to go back on? It’s a pointless endeavour perpetuated by idiots.
And I think if you’re honest you’ll agree with the first bit.
dont bridge, cruise or whatever, Come off and see how you go. You will not be able to perform the same (gym and bedroom) and mood might change, this is normal, you’ve just stopped 8-10 times the normal testosterone levels of a man. It’s not going to be a pic nic. But! That doesn’t mean you can’t train and eat properly.
get bloods done, see how things sit after 6 weeks or so (if you can manage staying off that long) and then see what needs to be done depending on goals and plans.
don’t do pct. you’re posts are all about drugs and it’s obvious to me you’ll be back on before you’re actually off so why bother trying to “recover” just to go back on? It’s a pointless endeavour perpetuated by idiots.
And I think if you’re honest you’ll agree with the first bit.
dont bridge, cruise or whatever, Come off and see how you go. You will not be able to perform the same (gym and bedroom) and mood might change, this is normal, you’ve just stopped 8-10 times the normal testosterone levels of a man. It’s not going to be a pic nic. But! That doesn’t mean you can’t train and eat properly.
get bloods done, see how things sit after 6 weeks or so (if you can manage staying off that long) and then see what needs to be done depending on goals and plans.
Richard Dick
Top Contributor
Like others said if you had to add something anavar or tbol are going to be more suitable for a first time.
I'm happy and agree with all the posts. Basically you should be trying to maximize the results with as little of drugs as possible when you hit that brick wall is the time to think about what's next.
You are already looking bigger in your pictures no need to fix what isn't broken
You are already looking bigger in your pictures no need to fix what isn't broken