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52 Years Old, First Cycle Advice Please

Discussion in 'Anabolic Steroids & Prohormones' started by Billet-Brain, Mar 4, 2019.

  1. Billet-Brain

    Billet-Brain Full Member

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    Hi guys. I'm new on here, and new to steroids. I've been training on and off for about five years, but always struggled to make much of gain, probably down to my age I guess. I'm not trying to get huge, just want to make slow and steady gains, so I can see results and keep interested, otherwise I will just waste away like all old guys :sad:

    I'd appreciate some advice/suggestions on what would be a good starter. I don't want to inject, primarily as I need to be discrete, so oral only. I've been reading various forums and articles, and thought maybe Testosterone and Anavar, in relatively low doses,, though I get the feeling Testosterone isn't available in pill form?

    Anyway, your advice would be greatly appreciated, in layman's terms please. All these abbreviations are like a foreign language to me.

    Cheers
     


  2. round 2

    round 2 Top Contributor

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    My advise would be inject 200mg of test enethate every week for ever. Srs

    Pills are up and down and 6/8 weeks max really. Although I have heard of folk on low dosage dbol for decades.
    Not worth getting shut down for and messing around with your natural levels for imo.

    So in all honesty steer clear unless your srs
     
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  3. Pie ead

    Pie ead Full Member

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    As above , but I jab 125mg al year apart from 2 blasts where I go up to 500mg . Nothing crazy as I'm in my 50s also, most test e comes in 250 mg per mil so to do 200 mg would mean to much messing around for me .
     
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  4. huntingground

    huntingground Fookin Pencil Neck Competitor

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    Firstly, I would get a full blood test. I would want to know where I am with regards to health and hormones. Check out Medichecks site. Act on any out of range values.

    I will assume that training and diet are good.

    200mg Test E forever. Blast on 500mg Test E for 12 weeks when you want. Have decent cruises between blasts.

    I try to follow the guidelines in this post, I have just had bloods done and everything was fine and I take a lot of gear:-

    https://www.tmuscle.co.uk/threads/sensible-precautions-whilst-using-aas.32313/

    Good luck!!
     
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  5. JANIKvonD

    JANIKvonD JandirTheJandirHandler Top Contributor

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    anavar is a good, low side effect, starting steroid. you will gain on just this if diet & training are good. I do think injectable test is what you're looking for though.. you don't get this in pill form

    the thought of injecting is a daunting one, but it really is a piece of piss. this is the standard prescription for treating low testosterone in males. says it all really

    1ml of oil (250mg/ml), 1 x a week will be over double your natural production. up the dose when you feel you need too.. but tbh 250mg will be PLENTY
     
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  6. Greedy Ben

    Greedy Ben Top Contributor

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    Injectable is the only way to use long term.

    Get a blood test and if you are on the low side then legit trt may be an option.
    Won't be steroid like gains but will be much better than low T and all above board.
     
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  7. Dorm3r

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    From my own personal experience I would strongly suggest getting your natural base line hormone levels tested first so you know once you recovered medichecks offer this service mate
     
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  8. Billet-Brain

    Billet-Brain Full Member

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    Thanks guys. really appreciate the advice. Was going to PM a couple of you, but it doesn't seem possible on here, :sad:
     
  9. Reacher

    Reacher Top Contributor

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    as above really all good advice.
    blood check initially, gives a idea of current test levels and generally health.
    keep eye on blood pressure.
    go with oils rather than orals.
    options to run a permanent trt dose which will be noticeable if you current level is low.
    could run a trt dose with an occasional blast of higher dose.
    could just drop a cycle in now and again.
    all will shut your own production down so be familiar with that, if long term trt is the plan not so much of an issue.
    Chuck a blood test in a couple of times over the year to see how your body copes with the peds.
    get them read by someone who understands what they are looking at.
     
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  10. Dorm3r

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    Have you though of popping to gp and saying mood and energy low a libido gone down they will check them and you never know you might be a candidate for trt be safer as monitored
     
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  11. Billet-Brain

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    I had thought about this, but I'm assuming the NHS would only aim to get my test levels up to normal, when I would like them a bit higher, to help me build up the muscle I have lost, and hopefully a bit more!. I like the sound of 200/250mg per week, as suggested above.
     
  12. Dorm3r

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    Yeah they would look to bring you high end of normal usually I think but nothing stopping you adding a little extra for a blast stage then you will be monitored with reg bloods etc but would be on the trt for life
     
  13. Billet-Brain

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    Ok, a few more questions, which prove what a novice I am.
    1, Is Test Enanthate an anabolic steroid?
    2, Is Test Enanthate used by the NHS for TRT, or do they use something else?
    3, I looked for a glossary of terms, but can't find one. What does PIP mean?
     
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  14. Dorm3r

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    Ok first I would say if you dont know if test enthanate is an anabolic steroid then I would suggest to do a bit more research no offence ment but there is alot to cycling that needs to be considered

    Now test e is an anabolic steroid the enthanate is the ester which dictates how long the half life is of a compound

    Test e I dont know if nhs use that but would assume it be a London ester they use I think they use nebido dont quite me on this


    PIP is post injection pain and this depends on brand and compound used and dosage mate virgin muscle might be more likely to get pip.

    Anything else give us a shout but I would strongly recommend doing some in depth research do you know about doing a PCT after your cycle??
     
  15. Billet-Brain

    Billet-Brain Full Member

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    Thanks for your reply. I am trying to research it. I'm considering TRT for long term, or ever, with a relatively low dose, as advised above. I didn't think this was the same as doing a cycle, with an on and off. But then I didn't think Test E was a steroid, but a hormone. TBH, I've sold the idea of me doing TRT to my wife on strength of it not being a steroid, but when I looked at a few websites that sell it (I have no idea yet what sites are reliable) they do refer to it as a steroid. If TRT can be for life, I thought it must just be a hormone and not a steroid. I guess its both?. Its so hard getting straight info off the net.
     
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