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First Cycle Ever - 2 Questions

Discussion in 'Anabolic Steroids & Prohormones' started by Stelios, Jan 14, 2020.

  1. Sjundea

    Sjundea Top Contributor

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    They're classic physique guys.
    Bumstead is Canadian mates with regan grimes and is in very good shape. Competed at olympia. He was the chap bicep curling with callum von moger when callum tore his bicep trying to barbell Curl 100kg or whatever it was.
     
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    What’s your current stats? Have you got any photos of how you look.

    Mike Thurston looks like he’s banged in quite a bit of gear not an easy look to go for imo.
     
  3. Stelios

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    I do have some pictures but I find myself to look really bad without clothes.... 20200114_123825.jpg l 20191230_195539.jpg SmartSelect_20200114-125601_Gallery.jpg
     
  4. GhostOf2Can

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    No base whatsoever

    Train natty and nail your diet for 18 months or so

    No need for steroids
     
  5. Stelios

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    Thanks for the feeeback :)
     
  6. Greedy Ben

    Greedy Ben Top Contributor

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    How old are you @Stylianos Mavromatis too?

    Theres a lot of health implications/conseqeunces to this too. It's not just a few jabs and a few pills here and there.

    Not a dig but honestly suspect you'd get more just from adjusting training and diet.
    You may be a bit disappointed with the results of gear use otherwise.
     
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  7. huntingground

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    The only side effect I ever got was extreme awesomeness
     
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  8. noreason

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    more like it!
     
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  9. Richard Dick

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    Stupid proposed cycle as others have said. Not everyone wants to do the 2ml of enanthate a week first cycle either though. You could do 125 to 250ml of test a week stacked with a low to moderate dose of anavar, winstrol, or tbol (pick one) instead.
     
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  10. Stelios

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    Hey Ben!
    I am 27. As I said before I was looking for just an enhancement of my current physique in a way where I will reduce my overall fat percentage and at the same time increase my muscle in a sorter period of time. My fat loss diet will start on April and I am afraid that without the help of steroids I will look too thin...
    Thats why I wanted to try the compounds mentioned initialy to help me put on a small amount of muscle mass while I am losing fat. Everyone is telling me that my idea is silly and tells me to try testo but still I dont understand why the combo of Masterone, Anavar and winstrol is that bad :/
     
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    Hi Richard! Thank you very much for your answer.
    I agree with you about the Testo E dose.
    I might be ignorant but why is Masteron (or primo) a bad stack with anavar and winstrol?
    What about Masteron, Winstrol and Proviron?
    I try to educate myself at the same time and understanding WHY i am not supposed ro do something is key I believe to avoid future mistakes.
     
  12. Greedy Ben

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    The steroids won't reduce your body fat.
    Some drugs are used/preferred whilst 'cutting' or dieting, the don't do the work though they are just drugs that don't make you hold as much extra water as some others.

    You need a small test base with other the other drugs and you don't even know how you'll react to that alone so start there.

    I'd get your training and diet nailed as already said, if you can't improve without drugs you'll struggle to make improvements with them too. You only get out what you put in. Drugs just help get a bit more out.
     
  13. JANIKvonD

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    basically what everyone is saying is they've never run this cycle & wouldn't. so you're on your own as far as picking this.. no one is going to tell you it's a good cycle

    will it work/do something? yes. assuming everything else is set up rite (training diet). what we're saying though is all they compounds have pretty much the same effect.. the main difference (other than price) are the negative side effects with each. why throw a whole mix of similar compounds (as far as results go) & suffer the negative sides of ALL of them vs 1 of them? you wont have a fucking clue what you get on with well & what you don't.. because you've thrown 5 dif compounds in from the start

    if you're looking for best results with minimal sides.. i'd say test on it's own is the best. maybe an oral kick start for the first 4 weeks or so (winny, var or tbol)

    if you don't want to jab.. pick 1 oral & run it as long as you want. I don't think you'll get the results you're expecting from anything tbh.. but that's up to you to find out for yourself the hard way

    also FYI.. winny is an oral.. not an injectable. yes you do get it in injectable form, but it's rare anywhere will do it
     
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    Basically I'm going to now say what most are thinking.
    We've given you the advice - you're pressing to run alternative compounds and multiple.
    How will you ever know how x y or z affects your body if you add many things at once?


    Your diet and training looks way off to even consider buying peds.
    You have a limited base (being polite), which implies you have little understanding of diet and training.
     
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    Thank you for the answer.
    That clears things up in my ignorant mind