Herbal supplements - Beta ecdysterone and tribulus

Discussion in 'Supplements' started by Lew-RAW, Aug 21, 2011.

  1. smurphy

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    Is he wearing make up?
     


  2. Con

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    Eh:confused: no why would you ask that???
     
  3. Lew-RAW

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    His eyes look like they've got eye shadow on them or something, wouldn't have noticed if he didn't quote though! lol
     
  4. smurphy

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    Just looks like he has blusher or something similar. He does look like you quite a bit tho, in fact I thought it was you
     
  5. Con

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    Both me and him have very red cheeks (rosacia sp) and several other family members have it.
     
  6. RickMiller

    RickMiller Clinical & Sports Diet Expert Full Member

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    Ecdysterone has been shown to increase nitrogen retention in some animal studies, and it was favoured by the russians in early part of the 20th century for performance enhancement but this was injected.

    It's not banned by the BNBF currently, but oral bioavailability is very low so you'd need to dose high (3g+) to get an effect. Anabeta seems to have had better feedback from all accounts.
     
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  7. Echo Supplements

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    Wasn't beta ecdysterone used on insects in the study? Not sure how much of that is transferable to humans to be honest! As standalone products both may have a small effect - although trib seems to increase sex drive from what I've been told by customers.

    I'm sure there are other herbal products that are similar but it isn't really my area of expertise, I've used tauro test with good effect (I'm 25) but there are loads of ingredients in it, you'd have to be careful to check them all.
     
  8. RickMiller

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    It was previously administered intramuscularly when first extracted, and for best effects this would be the way to go.

    Ecdysterone has been shown to be not only effective for increasing satellite cell proliferation (hyperplasia) but it is site specific where it is injected. Pretty amazing. Oral administration is, well, hit and miss :)
     
  9. Echo Supplements

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    I never knew it had actually been tested on humans - any idea what oral dose would actually be effective? If at all?
     
  10. Con

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    I am currently looking at *BETA ECDYSTERONE 95%* Cyanotis Extract on ebay.
    How much should I take of this orally for it to act as an anabolic?
     
  11. Lew-RAW

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    I've read between 900-1200mg a day, Con.

    I've got some BE here, still unopened, not sure though, might give it a whirl.
     
  12. RickMiller

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    Would be a huge amount, at least 3g I've seen dosed with no benefit but the recommended amount is 5mg/kg.

    5mg/kg seems to be an efficacious dosage but as I mentioned to Echo, it's a very hit and miss supplement :sad: I've seen one log of someone injecting it, interesting results:

    Russians ecdysterone Injectable log - Anabolicminds.com

    and how he supposedly made it:

    Russianstars "How to make injectable ecdysterone"
     
  13. Con

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    Well I wont be making any injectables, lol.
    But at the price it costs I could use as much as I wanted.
    Seems to be non toxic until 12+ grams so I was thinking of 5 grams or so...
     
  14. Lew-RAW

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    Be cool if you could log the results if you decide to go on it mate.
     
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  15. Diesel

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    hey bud , you may want to consider LA MUSCLE NORATEEN HEAVYWEIGHT 2 , my mate who is a rugby lad takes it and im sure he gets drug dope tested by WADA or summin yet he said it worked wonders when he was around your age but he said u need 2-3tubs of the stuff to get the most out of it

    its got BE,Trib and other natty boosting stuff

    have a good old looook!