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Lab Results.. Bit Confused

Discussion in 'Anabolic Steroids & Prohormones' started by bertos, Nov 20, 2018.

  1. bertos

    bertos Full Member

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    Hi all

    Be grateful for thoughts..

    Been on trt with the odd cycle for a good few years. 6 weeks ago dropped my regular trt dose and started 750 Sus a week. Also running HCG 500 X 2 per week and 0.25 addex X 2 PW.
    After a few weeks sex drive dropped, fatigue increased. In past this has been a sign of high e, so upped addex to .25 EOD. 2 weeks later symptoms much worse. On reflection crashed my e.

    Other obvious option was test was bunk. Dropped addex to .5 once a week. Left another 3 weeks. Still felt shit. Still running Sus and HCG.
    Last shot of both on Friday. Blood test Monday am for test and estrogen.
    Test came out 27.9 nmol/l
    17 Beta eostrogen 100 pmol/l

    So my theory is Sus was bunk. At best a little prop, or just bunk.

    It's the high e that confuses me. Is this HCG causing or any other suggestions?

    Thanks in advance.
     


  2. Getbig25

    Getbig25 Top Contributor

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    Shite gear mate. What brand?

    I just got bloods on 1ml test every 7-10 days and mines is in the 30s lol
     
  3. Reacher

    Reacher Top Contributor

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    why do you run HCG on trt ?
     
  4. bertos

    bertos Full Member

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    Was Oregon Sus. Usually good from source, but not this time.

    Reacher, always have. Micro nuts pisses me off, plus find I cum less which deadens the orgasm a bit

    Any thoughts on the high e levels though? That's the bit that's confused me. Especially as results usually come back pretty low for me. On trt dose they often come back below readable range <16 if I remember correctly.

    Fully agree gears bunk.
     
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  5. zack

    zack TM's resident millionaire entrepreneur. Top Contributor

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    What ester do you normally run for your trt?
     
  6. bertos

    bertos Full Member

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    Enantate or Cyp usually. Have ran Sus before as well. All pretty much the same result. Just try to not switch about too much
     
  7. swinka morska

    swinka morska Full Member

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    100 pmol works out as 27 pg/ml.

    that's what it should be for average male from what I've read?
     
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  8. bertos

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    Thanks, consensus on medical sites seems to be the below or similar, hence why I am perplexed by t in range but e high.

    For men, normal total estradiol levels are somewhere between 20–55 pg/mL (2.0–5.5 ng/dL) and 10-40 pg/mL (1.0-4.0 ng/dL), depending on who you ask.

    Cheers again.
     
  9. bertos

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    Actually just rechecked the conversion. You are 100 % right. That's good news. Mystery solved. Too many ways of expressing measurements had me confused.

    Thank you
     
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  10. swinka morska

    swinka morska Full Member

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    mine came up as 187 pmol/L so I panicked and thought it was sky high as it was near top end of normal on medi checks results

    but the conversion came out at 50pg/ml so slightly higher than it could have been but not as bad as I thought initially.

    depends where you look as to what normal is as you said. should be 30-40pg/ml depending on age.

    but that level of yours is good. I'm getting mine checked again soon keeping adex at 0.5 mon wed Friday and see what results say.
     
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  11. Tronic

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    Do you mean 100 mg test ?
     
  12. swinka morska

    swinka morska Full Member

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    No.

    I mean his estrogen came back as 100 pmol/l which converted to pg/ml works out at 27 which is the correct level for adult males depending on age etc and where you look for the lower and upper limits.
     
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