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Lgd As A "bulking Sarm", Cutting Through Bro Lore

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Jamesalan

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So the bro lore of lgd 4033 is that it is "the only sarm good for bulking". Due to the water weight it adds. Some users reported water weight gains.

Id like to end this myth once and for all. Lgd is one of the most suppressive SARMs. As we all know lowering natural test lowers estrogen as well. Estrogen is what brings the bloat, which is what people can experience on dbol or test as those convert to estrogen or synthetic estrogen in dbols case.

It's mechanism of action is the same as all other SARMs, basically every SARM gives a "winstrol", type effect of retaining muscle tissue, pumping your muscles full of glycogen and shedding water weight.

So how is it people report "water weight" gains with lgd? My guess is that since it is a "bulking sarm", the users just bulk get the water weight and blame it on the sarm. I see no action that would increase water weight.

Anything I'm missing here?
 
Jamesalan said:
So the bro lore of lgd 4033 is that it is "the only sarm good for bulking". Due to the water weight it adds. Some users reported water weight gains.

Id like to end this myth once and for all. Lgd is one of the most suppressive SARMs. As we all know lowering natural test lowers estrogen as well. Estrogen is what brings the bloat, which is what people can experience on dbol or test as those convert to estrogen or synthetic estrogen in dbols case.

It's mechanism of action is the same as all other SARMs, basically every SARM gives a "winstrol", type effect of retaining muscle tissue, pumping your muscles full of glycogen and shedding water weight.

So how is it people report "water weight" gains with lgd? My guess is that since it is a "bulking sarm", the users just bulk get the water weight and blame it on the sarm. I see no action that would increase water weight.

Anything I'm missing here?
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You seem to have solved the case Sherlock so I’m a little confused as to what you’re asking here.
 
Richard Dick said:
Yeah. 11-beta hydroxylase for one. Not saying that's the mechanism behind lgd being "wet" but lgd (and ostarine) definitely cause water retention in some people.
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Really didn't think about cortisol, can raise some bloating. Fair point, but wouldn't the severely suppressed estrogen usually negate that effect?
 
It's one of those things I don't think there'll be a clear cut answer to anytime soon. Like how some guys get gyno from anadrol despite it not aromatising. It definitely happens though.
 
Richard Dick said:
It's one of those things I don't think there'll be a clear cut answer to anytime soon. Like how some guys get gyno from anadrol despite it not aromatising. It definitely happens though.
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Well I thought in some unfortunate men's bodies on anything suppressive they could end up with test lower than estrogen even though estrogen is heading down as well thus gyno being a possibility.

Edit: Not literally being lower by mg/dl but being in an unfavorable ratio

Same thing happens to some dudes on SARMs and they are suppressive as *
 
Jamesalan said:
Well I thought in some unfortunate men's bodies on anything suppressive they could end up with test lower than estrogen even though estrogen is heading down as well thus gyno being a possibility.

Same thing happens to some dudes on SARMs and they are suppressive as *
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That's a thing too but I'm talking about using anadrol alongside test, not solo, and with e2 controlled. Doesn't happen with other non aromatising orals. The potential reasons for it are another whole can of worms I won't go into here, but the point is messing with your hormones does weird and unpredictable things that don't always immediately make sense on paper.
 
LittleChris said:
Wouldn't ever touch any of those nasty compounds.
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Do you use any oral steroids? Nothing to suggest lgd and ostarine are any worse than mild orals like var or tbol, the opposite if anything. The rest are mostly untested in humans and I prefer to steer clear.
 
Richard Dick said:
Do you use any oral steroids? Nothing to suggest lgd and ostarine are any worse than mild orals like var or tbol, the opposite if anything. The rest are mostly untested in humans and I prefer to steer clear.
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Thats your choice entirely and I respect that. I generally avoid orals as a rule I think they are harmful with all the stresses on the body as it is when pushing. Have used but typically for shorter periods say 2 weeks Dbol.
 
Jamesalan said:
So the bro lore of lgd 4033 is that it is "the only sarm good for bulking". Due to the water weight it adds. Some users reported water weight gains.

Id like to end this myth once and for all. Lgd is one of the most suppressive SARMs. As we all know lowering natural test lowers estrogen as well. Estrogen is what brings the bloat, which is what people can experience on dbol or test as those convert to estrogen or synthetic estrogen in dbols case.

It's mechanism of action is the same as all other SARMs, basically every SARM gives a "winstrol", type effect of retaining muscle tissue, pumping your muscles full of glycogen and shedding water weight.

So how is it people report "water weight" gains with lgd? My guess is that since it is a "bulking sarm", the users just bulk get the water weight and blame it on the sarm. I see no action that would increase water weight.

Anything I'm missing here?
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If sarms or dbol is used solo, then it will give effects only up to 4 weeks, then the effect of meat growth will end and there will be no progress at all at best, and at worst you will start gaining fat, and all due to the fact that in 4 weeks dbol solo extinguishes its endogenous test to zero, and the artificial one does not come in, therefore, the fact that lgd or dbol solo is taken is meaningless nonsense, it turns out stupidly replaced its own test with lgd and that's it. But until your test is gone, for the first time 4 weeks will be dust
 
just use anadrol, cheaper, proven track record in human use....cheaper.... leave the LGD nonsense to Americans and people who cant get gear
 
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