New Plans

Discussion in 'Training Logs' started by Mr first time, Mar 18, 2021.

  1. pooley1810

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    Thats not logical is it
    For a start you don't need half the calories
    A deficit is a deficit whether its from cardio or diet
    In fact, its likely you will lose more muscle tissue if you do too much cv compared to creating a deficit through diet alone
    That's obvious isn't it?
     
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  2. pooley1810

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    So a 1200cal deficit from the start
    Completely overkill
     
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  3. Mr first time

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    No 400 with same diet and training as before
     
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  4. Mr first time

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    The only thing I'm adding here is cardio but I'm open to opinions
     
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  5. Mr first time

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    If I was sedentary I would have to go to maintance and take away the 1200 from exercise then another 500 to be in a decfict
     
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  6. Sjundea

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    OP reminds me of me when I was new to BBing. I know now I was overly enthusiastic. Wanting to train all the time etc.
    For me 4 x a week which Dig drove hard into me was more than enough. Iirc I was 6 or 7 days a week for years before working with Dig.
    Body changed dramatically getting over the fact you don't need to do something everyday.
     
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  7. Mr first time

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    I am new might have to take a page out of your book and see how things go. Resting makes me feel like I'm not reaching goals tho
     
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  8. Mr first time

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    So drop the calories by 400 and skip the cardio but the walk is GTG?
     
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  9. Sjundea

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    You grow/recover when you rest and eat.
    You break tissue down, become catabolic in the gym, is what got drummed into my brain. You don't want to be breaking tissue down daily.
    Just my 2 cents, you'll do as you please.
     
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  10. Mr first time

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    Stupid question but can you go catabolic while on tren? Thanks for the advice I don't know much other than what Ive heard from famous bodybuilders on YouTube like John medows and Jeff nippard
     
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  11. Sjundea

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    @pooley1810 would probs be best to advise. My thoughts are if you're burning too much (output), not enough input (food), breaking tissue down in a gym then yes irrespective of hormones you can go catabolic.
     
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  12. pooley1810

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    OK, I get what you're saying now
    If what you are doing now is working and you feel good then I would simply start by dropping 500cals from you're diet
    I wouldn't add any more cv to an already high workload
    Your starting cals are high so you have plenty of room to keep dropping when necessary
    Unfortunately there is no right or wrong here as everybody responds differently to different methods
    The only thing for certain is you need to be in a deficit to lose weight, how you do that depends on you
    Be patient and dont overdo things from the start, the best diet is the one you can sustain
     
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  13. pooley1810

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    The simple answer is yes
    But thats a very vague question with so many variable answers
     
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  14. Big Balls

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    way too much IMO. upper /lower 4 days a week is more than enough.
    would be better getting a push bike then doing 3 times a week hard 45-60 min cycling. get some hills in there. this is what i do. walking every day is too much wasted time.
     
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