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Opinions On Bulking And Cutting Cycles

Discussion in 'Anabolic Steroids & Prohormones' started by Paramedoc, Jun 30, 2022.

  1. Paramedoc

    Paramedoc Full Member

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    I am a fair few weeks into a trial cycle with 60 Test E (W)/ 50 Tbol (Ed). So far, the results have been noticeable, fair and better than expected.

    Looking to the future I'd like opinions on what a decent cutting cycle and a decent bulking cycle would be and. hopefully, learn from your experience what works (for you) and what to avoid like Boris Johnsons drinks cabinet!

    As to supplements - TUDCA, Multivit tablet, Omega3 and Milk Thistle - Creatine and 1/2 Whey shakes ED.

    Diet is generally good - no refined sugars/alcohol/ junk food. Chicken/Turkey/Fish & Veg 3-4 ED with a smaller but measured amount of carbs taking macro/micro nutrients into account. No cheat meals planned but due to the nature of work the odd junk food/garage food is inevitable.

    Thanks in advance for thoughts, advice and recommendations.
     
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  2. Greedy Ben

    Greedy Ben Top Contributor

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    Food intake is what dictates the 'cutting' or 'bulking' not the cycle.

    Some drugs will make you hold more water whilst on cycle, some not so much, this will dissipate post cycle and isn't additional muscle.
     
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  3. Reacher

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    Greedy Ben beat me to it,
    what he said.
     
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  4. mal

    mal Top Contributor

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    If you respond well to tbol, just stick with it , it doesnt aromatise odvious advantage when cutting.
     
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  5. Paramedoc

    Paramedoc Full Member

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    Thanks guys.

    I'm currently good at 50 es for tbol.

    Anyone any experience with a higher dose?
     
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  6. SebChopChop

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    Used 100mg Tbol with excellent results mate
     
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  7. Paramedoc

    Paramedoc Full Member

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    That's cool.

    I think I will complete this cycle, go trt for 6 weeks and start new cycle on 100.

    Do you go 25, 50, 100 or jump right in?
     
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  8. Richard Dick

    Richard Dick Top Contributor

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    What are your levels like on 60mg a week of test out of interest?
     
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  9. pooley1810

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    Gotta be a typo and mean 600
    He's just mentioned dropping to a trt dose
     
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  10. Paramedoc

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    Yeah, Pooley is right - typo - I am currently on 600 Test E per week and 50 TBol ED.

    I had bloods done on Monday but I am not back in work till Monday coming so will not find out until then - the plus side is, that if anything were to be really off the scale - I'd have had a message by now - all good it would appear (although my LDL/HDL ratio has gone ski-whiff.

    I think it was pooley who suggested TRT at my age (dunno what you mean) so, having done some background reading into the whole wider concept am going to happily take the advice.
     
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  11. Richard Dick

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    That makes a lot more sense, I thought you were saying you were on a trt dose plus tbol. That's why I was curious where 60mg put you, since it's so low even for trt.
     
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  12. Paramedoc

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    Yeah, that'd be a waste of time, effort and money.

    It's the phone. It changes things or I don't check it before I post.

    Either way, it's 600
     
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  13. SebChopChop

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    Straight in mate No need to taper up or down IMO
     
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    What did you ask them to check on the bloods?
    If you are thinking about Trt , bearing in mind your age it would be advisable to check PSA before you carry on with the Test, but suppose you would know that anyway.
     
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  15. Paramedoc

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    FBC which came back within parameters apart from HDL/LDL ratio
    CRP - Normal range
    ESR - normal range
    LFT - GammaGT raised (I don't drink)

    Have added PSA to the next test, which will be ion 3 weeks (dunno why I didn't think of that - I suppose sitting on the other side of the desk my head works differently)
     
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