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Rad140/ostarine 3 Month Stack Results, S23 Next

Discussion in 'Other PED's and POM's' started by Jamesalan, Apr 1, 2021.

  1. Jamesalan

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    My stack of osta and rad was what I would call a success I went from 166 to 179 with arguably a lower body fat at the end. Keep in mind that was after I lost 75 or so pounds so a good bit of muscle memory contribution to that. Only sides as expected dry rough joints specifically at the height of 15mg a day of each and suppression which subsided for the most part after titrating down.

    Almost a month off now and I am winging up to give s23 the next try, this time I will be using DHEA along side it with boron and other stuff. DHEA has strong research to show good estrogen boosts in men being that DHEA can take 3 pathways. Interesting thing is 2 of those pathways lead to testosterone but for some unknown reason in men it usually takes the pathway to convert to E2 which is a good thing as all sarms nuke estrogen levels which lead to the very crappy sides. I do have arimistane on deck in case the E2 starts overwhelming the suppressed test levels but my bloods taken last week showed a 544 ng/dl test level which is in normal range. I am going to try to recover that for a few more weeks yet as s23 is supposedly the most suppressive sarm on market but imo people also use abysmal doses on it and imo people use sarms in general at doses that don't yield much more gains and only really amp up the sides.

    I noticed this when I went down to 5mg of a mix of osta and rad vs 15mg of each. The gains were still rolling in and though for a week or so due to RADs halflife of 60 hours it would take time to decrease in my system the gains were coming ALMOST as fast as 15mg of each and the sides were non-existent. Granted I am rebuilding muscle I lost there could be a point of time that ceiling will be reached and the only way to keep walking forward will be higher dosages I may just stand in place instead my goal of 185 5'11 at around 10% bf is an awesome place to be in and idk if I'll really strive for more.

    Once started I will be updating this thread with whats going on. Wish me luck!
     
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  2. pooley1810

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    Do you have any pics if your progress?
     
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  3. Jamesalan

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    Sure heres 2 before and after shots, granted the befores arent exactly right before the cycle but yeah
     

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  4. Jamesalan

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    So I did give it another full week before starting been on s23 for about 5 days at just 6mg a day just to see how it goes will probably step it up soon. Strength is comparable to RAD, I don't feel like much stronger than I was on RAD but not weaker or anything. Pumps once again just like RAD, have that very dry look very quickly to the point I can see almost every vein in both of my arms and have that double bicep vein in both arms can't really portray it correctly with a picture as my phones camera sucks and my webcam is...a webcam lmao.

    I did up my calorie intake as well I stayed in the 2200-2400 range for all of last cycle this time I'm trying 2400-2600 with 250-300g of protein a lot more than I need at 180 but whatever.

    No real significant sides to mention yet, joints feeling a tiny bit rough sometimes but very rarely nothing like when I did the RAD not sure if its the DHEA helping or what but it's really barely worth mentioning.

    Have moved up half a pound so far in 5 days nothing significant probably just water flux will keep an eye and hope that keeps moving up and the body fat stays around the same range hopefully I wake up STARVING in the morning and can barely get 3-4 hours between meals of very filling stuff so my body is just ripping through the calories like crazy.

    So yeah will keep updating this so far just like RAD very happy with how I look I have veins and vascularity EVERYWHERE calves, quads, veins running from stomach up to my rib cage, even a vein in my left pec shoulders it looks GREAT.

    USA is moving to ban sarms soon most the majors received cease and desist warnings so put in an order for 4gs of osta and a few others to stock up for future cycles. Take care!
     
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    Looks like some bad gyno there, I am clueless about sarms because of complete lack of interest. But was that cauuses by them or aas?
     
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    I think it's loose skin tbh as I don't have any hard formation and it only really looks that way from certain angles. I got very fat and lost a bunch of weight and my chest looked a bit off before I touched anything PED wise.

    But yeah sarms can cause it as they crash your test levels which in part crashes estrogen similar to what the majority of AAS's do so yeah some people could be the unlucky ones that get their T:E ratio so messed up they get gyno.

    I would be taking a test base, if I knew where the heck to get it however where I live out in the country in the middle of the USA not the premier spot to find it. I was gonna try 4-andro but read most the pro hormones are trash and just up the side profile. I am taking DHEA which is basically a OTC pro hormone because of it's unreliable profile as it's a precursor to both test and estrogen but you can't really rely on what it converts to so it's not extremely effective itself.

    Been keeping a close eye on it as I don't want to exacerbate what might already be going on and I have arimistane just in case very reluctant to take it unless needed however.
     
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  7. Greedy Ben

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    Just get some test ffs it will be far better on your body and actually help your training and physique.
    I would not want to be running sarms long term and I'm not the most cautious person.
    S23 is the shit that makes your vision go yellow ffs.
    If you are going to use stuff use the stuff that has been used medicinally at least.

    We know cardarine works and has some benefits - long term risks aside but all the other stuff is pretty useless for men compared to aas.
     
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    S4 is the yellow vision one but I could understand the mix up
     
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    Honestly nothing bad to say at all thus far.

    Joints: feel much better this time around maybe due to DHEA idk.

    Strength: Still comparable to RAD

    Sex drive: Better than when I was on RAD/Osta for sure me and the old lady been going 3 rounds last couple nights with zero issues.

    Vascularity: Insane, I get a pump from lifting a can of soup. And when I do lift in the gym it would be easier to find a part of my body that's not all veined out.

    Loving it so far!
     
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    what can of soup was it?
     
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    I think it was rohm branded. I'll have to ask tebbit about it he said they were legit
     
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    I got jumped by a few people and I'm okay for the most part I knocked one of them out cold but anyways my mouth is super f'd and I have tons of bruising going on will this call for a deload to heal or just lift as I normally would?
     
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    surprised you haven't added another SARM to help out, maybe some SR9009 to help lean you out during this downtime
     
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    Apparently according to a few sources sr has shyt bioavailability. I've heard that Ryan Russo guys ramblings about it he seems smart but it's almost like the sarms ate his brain he's very monotone but he goes deep into the stuff and has tried everything under the sun lol
     
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    was being sarcastic.. sounds like non stop kidney and liver damage with all those orals mate.
     
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