Seb's Road To Being Chopped (diced For The Unanneciated).

Discussion in 'Training Logs' started by SebChopChop, May 27, 2021.

  1. SebChopChop

    SebChopChop Full Member

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    It can gen be all over the place mate really lol.

    Doing a lot of clean and presses, up to 140kg now which is a PB even though I'm dieting. Squatting 4 plates for (good) reps. Love chin/ups pull-ups. Obviously do a lot of typical BB work but I kind of cross it over in the same session. So I won't particularly have a 'back' day or a 'chest and biceps' day. Bores me rigid.

    Gym I'm at has got a prowler now so I'm hogging that every time I go in, greatly improved my legs and cardio too.

    I just have fun with it mate I don't have set days that I do 'delts' or 'arms.' Not that I'm knocking anyone for that but it's the reason most hate training with me because we'll do a few sets on on say chest then I'll be squatting then I'll be doing something else for upper body lol. No method to the madness it just keeps me stimulated, I've tried the whole BB split before and I actually ended up not even enjoying training anymore so I just go in and do what I feel like doing that day.
     
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  2. GhostOf2Can

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    I’m the same mate. I do whatever the fuck I want. No rules really

    I had a mate taking the piss the other day saying I don’t know what I’m doing because I sometimes do chest and Legs together, and in the mean time he’s 12 stone wet through and weak as piss

    Funny cunt
     
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  3. LittleChris

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    Solid physique! Interesting approach will will follow along!
    Interested to see now you find the pharma against generic hgh
     
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  4. SebChopChop

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    I don't get where the 'rules' come from, probably the old Flex magazines when they used to give you Cutler's full arm routine that was about 30 sets and then documented that he drank a litre of coca cola after to 'replenish glycogen stores.'

    Failing to mention the 20-30iu shot of Humalog he'd just had lol
     
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    Are theses taken all year round, or are some taken all year round and others in ‘cycles’?
     
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  6. SebChopChop

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    GH for most of the year but that mostly comes down to finances at the time mate.

    Sometimes I'll stop other times will lower dosage.

    50mcg T3 there's a ton of benefits with it (before any moron cries permanent thyroid damage, na, it really doesn't cause this as long as your thyroid is functioning properly and healthily in the first place).

    The Cialis year round yes. Again for added benefits.

    I blast and cruise, so never come off but my cruise would typically be 200-300mg test, no orals, 50mcg t3 and GH dependant on finances.

    Tanners pretty much year round yeah but for instance now I'm using just one 10iu jab per week, along with sunbeds to maintain my colour.

    And still no AI or anything similiar never needed it once you learn how your own body works and reacts to the different drugs you take.

    My diet is very much on point year round and I enjoy eating that way too, it's just habit now don't crave sweets etc at all.

    On a night out with the Mrs it will be a huge starter with a ton of protein, then a steak or burger etc. Worse thing to go down my neck is a couple of beers with the meal. Not into desserts never really have been even as a kid we weren't raised on shit food and that sticks with you (my theory anyway).

    So when Mrs sits there eating her huge ice cream I just tut and shake my head but she doesn't give a fuck lol.
     
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  7. custom_courier

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    Thanks for the detailed reply mate.

    "The Cialis year round yes. Again for added benefits." :rofl:
     
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  8. pooley1810

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    T3 is an interesting one, especially 50mcg as a cruise dose, as, to me that would only be used to get off any stubborn fat at the very end of a diet
    What are the benefits to someone who already has a healthy thyroid?
    Do you think if you didn't use it then you'd have to pull back on your diet?
     
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  9. SebChopChop

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    Not at all. I eat very 'clean' year round and also live a very active lifestyle, not just gym and then home.

    If correct I think a healthy body (male and female no doubt differ) produce technically 26mcg t3 per day. So taking one tablet is utterly pointless, shutting down your own thyroid for (and yes being very picky here) for 1mcg less. I've heard of people taking 12.5mcg and all you can do is shake your head. Ridiculous.

    The nutrient partioning in t3 usage has been well documented so that's what first peaked my interest, that and when I first did that I was using Tren as it's also been said Tren can down regulate t3 output.

    Since then I've stuck with it. Yes it gives my metabolism a bit of a rev, which I have no problem with, the calories I take in are put to better use and no doubt it does aid me in keeping a little leaner though I've had abs and never lost site of them since I was about 17/18.

    Even technically I'm (sort of) dieting now I feel no need to up it but say I really wanted to get down to comp levels of fat then of course I would, adding Clen in too as they work synergistically. (I'm sure you know all this you have a cracking physique yourself just trying to explain why I use it year round).

    In a vague way I see it like blasting and cruising (though it's very rare I go above 50mcg unless I was hitting a diet seriously hard). I'd much rather have 200-300mg test in my body for the rest of my life (already have kids), than go through the ups and downs of cycling and using female breast cancer drugs to counter act coming off completely.

    The extra test gives me that little extra edge/boost whatever one would call it without killing me. I view the t3 usage as the same. Just gives a little extra in the way the nutrients are put to use in the body and of course gives you that bit of spike to the old metabolism.

    There's a ton of scare mongering out there with t3 that I personally find ridiculous when these same people (not saying you) use Tren, Clen, DNP etc etc.

    DISCLAIMER: Any newb reading this or moron who doesn't know his arse from his acetate take no notice of me. I'm not encouraging staying on anything just saying what I choose to do. It could well bite me in the arse one day.
     
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  10. SebChopChop

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    Potty mind. 7-10mg helps to lower BP
     
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    Ohhhh does it?! All the excuse I need!
     
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  12. SebChopChop

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    Bit of an update pic. No pump just out the sunbed. Prob spend more time there than I do the gym
     

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  13. pooley1810

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    Genuinely finding this interesting
    Did a little research and many studies show that you can't shut down a healthy thyroid
    Do you ever think about the cons of using it?
    Ie it can make you look flat and difficult to get a pump when training
    It also eats away at muscle tissue, but I'd say as you use test and by eating in a surplus then it's not too much of an issue
    Its something I'll probably never use again as prior to my dad passing away from pancreatic cancer he was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism
    I used 50mcg during a prep once
    The night sweats were horrific, huge strength loss and lethargy and I lost muscle tissue
    So I dont think cruising on 50mcg would be very beneficial for me lol
     
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  14. custom_courier

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    It’s also interesting how different people react so differently to identical medication.

    I’ve been taking 50mcg every morning now for nearly a week and have experienced no bad sides whatsoever.

    In fact the opposite has been true. As my username suggests I’m a courier. When the weather is very muggy I usually feel very fatigued after delivering 150 parcels. It just occurred to me yesterday that I felt far more energetic. Yes I was still sweating my ass off but definately not as fatigued.
     
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  15. SebChopChop

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    Honestly mate never once gone flat or lost strength on 50mcg. All I've ever noticed at that dose is the benefits.

    Highest I've ever been was 125mcg along with Clen when I got obsessed with dieting and that was a disaster (not the brightest button but mistakes are made to be learned from).

    At that dose I went flat as a pancake and strength dipped significantly. However, here's the interesting part, after giving my head a wobble and seeing how much smaller I looked I stopped the t3 completely, no joke within 2-3 days I filled back out again and no I didn't stuff myself with carbs. No amount of re-feeds will undo the glycogen depletion from too much t3 anyway, talking from experience lol.

    But honestly few days later without sounding like a knob I looked great, noticeably leaner but also filled out after stopping the t3 so for me it's just wether you can put up with looking like shit at a higher dosage for x amount of time until you reach your goal. I personally wouldn't do it again.

    And absolutely I'd never use t3 without gear as it just eats through whatever it can get it's hands on.

    And agreed, the thyroid is THE most resilient gland in the body and can take a hell of a lot so no I'm very sceptical of the repetitive horror stories over t3. I don't believe a healthy, functioning thyroid can be shut down regardless of dosage.

    I think on medical records where people were wrongly prescribed Cytomel for up to 20 years the longest it took a patient to recover was around 10 days as there was nothing wrong with their thyroid and they were deff on higher dosages than 50mcg per day.

    If you do end up getting shut down off such a dose I firmly believe there was an underlying genetic problem in the first place. Then hopefully you'll be prescribed t3 anyway so win/win in my book lol.
     
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