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Primo And Estrogen

Never knew primo was the same as tren in its interactions..

Like you mentioned with reducing estrogen for less sides

Could you expand on how reducing estrogen provides less sides thus enabling great gains?

So reduced estrogen enables great gains?

And you do realise that estrogen is required for normal bodily functions.. brain / heart etc

(Genuinely interested in your explanation)

@ron
 
mick_the_brick said:
Never knew primo was the same as tren in its interactions..

Like you mentioned with reducing estrogen for less sides

Could you expand on how reducing estrogen provides less sides thus enabling great gains?

So reduced estrogen enables great gains?

And you do realise that estrogen is required for normal bodily functions.. brain / heart etc

(Genuinely interested in your explanation)

@ron
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The reason for high tren/low test is quite simple. Not really water retention as SG says.

It's all about minimising Tren side effects. As you'll likely know, one of tren's metabolites is prolactin.

Prolactin from Tren can only be formed when there's estrogen about... and guess where the Estrogen comes from? Aromatisation of Testosterone.

So, the reasoning is that if you run Test low along side Tren, you have less Estrogen in your system and hence less Prolactin from the Tren.

Run an Aromatase Inhibitor along side a cycle like this such as Arimidex at 0.25 - 0.5 mg every other day... and you'll not likely have any significant prolactin side-effects from Tren.
 
You have missed my point..

I'll articulate it a simpler way

How does reduced estrogen provide great gains?

On a seperate point It's really wreckless advice suggesting running an AI alongside any cycle.

The aim should always be to use the least amount possible so that users don't need to add additional meds in, especially ones that affect lipids in such a negative way.

Bloodwork always should be the reference before embarking on throwing in ancillary meds alongside 'a cycle like this'.

To suggest anything else is irresponsible
 
Clubber Lang said:
Im only on 400mg ew, which im sure most will say is a very lose dose. But its what the coach has said so keeping to it.

From what i gather 600mg+ is most common.
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Cheers for that, I prefer low doses tbh so definitely something I will be looking at.

Ronnie_Malenko said:
Side effect free
Makes u feel good
And brings a good look

wont get huge strengrh gainz like deca or tren etc but its very good med

Id reccomend
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Sounds perfect , and I do like the fact you say it makes you feel good ,I am looking more at that side of things as I can't take the head fcuks anymore can't be doing with anxiety and depression I have battled long enough with that shite.
 
RAD said:
Cheers for that, I prefer low doses tbh so definitely something I will be looking at.



Sounds perfect , and I do like the fact you say it makes you feel good ,I am looking more at that side of things as I can't take the head fcuks anymore can't be doing with anxiety and depression I have battled long enough with that shite.
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As ive said before mate i wouldnt bother with things that dont enhance this “hobby” dosent make sense to me

why take something that makes you feel worse makes no sense
 
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Ronnie_Malenko said:
As ive said before mate i wouldnt bother with things that dont enhance this “hobby” dosent make sense to me

why take something that makes you feel worse makes no sense
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Agreed Ronnie mate so far I have found that test,dbol and mast definitely make me feel good hopefully primo will do the same.

Pointless taking something that makes you feel shit as it has a knock on to training and diet.

Just going to stick to the happy stuff lol.
 
Ronnie_Malenko said:
The reason for high tren/low test is quite simple. Not really water retention as SG says.

It's all about minimising Tren side effects. As you'll likely know, one of tren's metabolites is prolactin.

Prolactin from Tren can only be formed when there's estrogen about... and guess where the Estrogen comes from? Aromatisation of Testosterone.

So, the reasoning is that if you run Test low along side Tren, you have less Estrogen in your system and hence less Prolactin from the Tren.

Run an Aromatase Inhibitor along side a cycle like this such as Arimidex at 0.25 - 0.5 mg every other day... and you'll not likely have any significant prolactin side-effects from Tren.
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that’s a copy paste job!
 
spearman said:
Got an update on the status SUST clubs?
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Yeah seems to be doing the job.

Not sure whats doing it but these last few weeks ive noticed an increase in strength on some exercises.

Not changed anything diet wise, just switched to Sust and the Primo.

Got 1 more week left then its cruising time. Will finish the bottle of Sust then use a slow-ester.
 
mick_the_brick said:
You have missed my point..

I'll articulate it a simpler way

How does reduced estrogen provide great gains?

On a seperate point It's really wreckless advice suggesting running an AI alongside any cycle.

The aim should always be to use the least amount possible so that users don't need to add additional meds in, especially ones that affect lipids in such a negative way.

Bloodwork always should be the reference before embarking on throwing in ancillary meds alongside 'a cycle like this'.

To suggest anything else is irresponsible
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Someone on Ukm has posted his blood experience and experiment results with primo if this helps you understand more about your question.
 
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Clubber Lang said:
Cool on the above comments. See how the next month and half go. Im away for a week down Devon from tomorrow, nice cottage in the middle of no where. Still following my diet but having 1x off plan meal per day, and a few much needed tasty snacks between meals, but not going crazy.

Nice gym down there so going for a pump rather than chasing numbers. Then when i return refreshed i'll have a good 6 week push till Christmas.
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What’s premo? How do it compare to tren?
 
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