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1st cycle for a big bloke

Discussion in 'Performance Enhancing Drugs' started by Oaken, Mar 31, 2014.

  1. Oaken

    Oaken Guest

    guy Looks like hes been on deca, big and heavy, not fat, strong but never used AAS. I thought he would have but defo never used. He's 100+ kg

    Starting his first cycle, wants to lean out.

    300mg test e
    200mg tren e


    is it ok?
  2. Guerilla9

    Guerilla9 Elite Member

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    Don't see why it wouldn't work, but I have to admit Id prefer to go test only first. Has to be worth finding out how he reacts to a compound before adding more in.

    Save the tren until cycle 2. you know theres going to be one.
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  3. Oaken

    Oaken Guest

    yeah I know well the rule about one compound at a time, but considering

    1) hes a tough mutha

    2) his target, tren fits perfectly

    were gonna dive straight in
  4. hilly

    hilly BANNED

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    Aye sounds fine

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  5. mick_the_brick

    mick_the_brick Administrator

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    Sounds good to get the most out of the first one I would recommend adding in 20mg of pharma dbol ed

    Doses you mention on the other compounds are good btw

    Will grow like a weed
  6. Pip

    Pip Elite Member

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    I personally wouldnt use trenbolone. Its more an advance drug.

    But then again I am old fashioned.
  7. Roy@/_

    Roy@/_ Elite Member

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    I had the same advice a whole ago and it was sound.

    500mg pharma test e e/w and 20mg pharma dbol ed would be advice to a friend regardless of starting point in terms of development.
  8. Oaken

    Oaken Guest

    like I said, normally 500mg test plus some oral kickstarter (or even without), or frontloaded is what I normally advise.

    But for specific reasons we're jumping straight on tren with this bloke. Perhaps I wasnt too clear in my origional post, it's not really the meds Im inquiring about rather the doses.

    TBH it took me some time for him to convince me hes never used gear before he really looks like a Michelin man from deca. But im sure now he hasnt used, just genetically built like a tank

    (Mick this is not Christos on my fb)
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2014
  9. mick_the_brick

    mick_the_brick Administrator

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  10. Irish Beast

    Irish Beast Moderator

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    I dont think the tren is such a bad idea. Maybe start with the test and see how he reacts in terms of water. Personally I balloon and tren helps keep it off and 200mg is a sensible dose
  11. Irish Beast

    Irish Beast Moderator

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    Your just bitter cos after a week of it you started to become Duncan Goodhew!
  12. CASS

    CASS Senior Member

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    i would leave the teen out but otherwise good to go.  i'd also go with nick's suggestion of pharma dbol too
  13. . Az .

    . Az . Elite Member

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    I would be tempted to just go with the 20mg Dianabol and forget about the testosterone. 200mg Tren E is a nice dose, modest by UGM standards maybe but in truth its a huge jump up for anyone naive to AAS, especially trenbolone. If thing go well psychologically and the sides are bearable then it would be sensible to add in testosterone of any ester. 

    Plenty of time down the line to run different hormones individually to get to know everything, knowing Tren first is no big deal... you just leave yourself little room to work up the ladder in some respects of starting with milder hormones.
  14. AlriteGeezer

    AlriteGeezer Elite Member

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    Would 200mg tren e actually be that noticable? Taking ester weight into consideration, would only work out around 140mg..
  15. mattyb009

    mattyb009 Elite Member

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    I notice the effects of 200mg.