GH15- cycle for the poor body builder?

[New Hybrid]

t,t,t,tren-bolona whoo!

 

[New Hybrid]

it is funny to be fair.

 

[Fah_Gedda_Boudit]

Totally agree mate but these guys were in the minority... Now he's got people asking questions and grilling the pro's, just look how much priest has changed his tune.

I don't think so myself: sticking with just MT, I started posting there in 2006 & the "pissing in the wind" analogy was widespread amongst the TAOS crowd back then, many of whom have long since disappeared from forums & a lot of comparitively newer forum users wouldn't have heard of them. Yeah, you got all sorts of guillible types in the regular supps forum (anyone else remember that prat with his "raises testosterone levels through the roof!!!!" claims for his herbal shite, the guy that PB basically went to war with over his outlandsish claims? Was quite a few who were itching to buy that crap) but not in the gear forums. That said....

I would have assumed every young guy would understand about "supplements vs. gear" after the move Bigger, Stronger, Faster and so on.

...you'd have thought so, but know a couple of guys in the real world who have just started out on their first cycles & are taking all sorts of unessacry (& expensive) supplement shite (or go faster / boutique brands of protein) alongside their gear & trying to tell them that they'd be better off spending the money elsewhere does fall on deaf ears.

 

[New Hybrid]

I don't think so myself: sticking with just MT, I started posting there in 2006 & the "pissing in the wind" analogy was widespread amongst the TAOS crowd back then, many of whom have long since disappeared from forums & a lot of comparitively newer forum users wouldn't have heard of them. Yeah, you got all sorts of guillible types in the regular supps forum (anyone else remember that prat with his "raises testosterone levels through the roof!!!!" claims for his herbal shite, the guy that PB basically went to war with over his outlandsish claims? Was quite a few who were itching to buy that crap) but not in the gear forums. That said....


...you'd have thought so, but know a couple of guys in the real world who have just started out on their first cycles & are taking all sorts of unessacry (& expensive) supplement shite (or go faster / boutique brands of protein) alongside their gear & trying to tell them that they'd be better off spending the money elsewhere does fall on deaf ears.

if this has said 'or go faster/brotique brands of protein' it would have been even better :tongue:

 

[Fah_Gedda_Boudit]

if this has said 'or go faster/brotique brands of protein' it would have been even better :tongue:

You really need to trademark that fcuker mate!

 

[nigalwayne]

It got to the point on intense muscle where the faceless 'dante' posted up pictures of himself,whether it was just to pacify the knockers who where constantly assuming the same( some 19 year geek),but I suppossed Dave Henry knew him as he trained him for long enough.


GH15 while probably not saying anything revolutionary or new,maybe he just says it in away that people can relate to,he must be a person of note in BB community in america,purely down to the amount of pro's who have come out and defended themselves,from his attacks /criticisms etc.


His advocation of the importance of GH use totally flies in the face of opinion,moreso given the opinion of GH use by certain people on this site in particular.


Maybe some of use are just wanting confirmation that taking lots of gear,year round is ok,GH15 on PCT'what the fucks that',it's definitely contradictory,and it has people talking,about his site,which is great for him being the owner.

 

[Rentaghost]

That's the case on most forums still though mate, all of those guys disappeared and were replaced by lab whores, supp company reps and bro scientists and before you knew it they had a bunch of young lads thinking they were genuinally going to end up with tits if they mixed deca with test and no AI, didnt run milk thistle, wouldn't grow without leucine, had to run caber or prami with 19-nors.... Let's face it, 9 out of 10 forum posts are complete drivel based on regurgitated info, flawed science of total conjecture.


The guys who know the score are genuinally the guys who have been through the gullible stage, got fucked off with it, just done their own thing and progressed better. Again, most forum users don't fit this bill and the vast majority buy into all this bullshit.


Somehow he's got his name out there and an audience of hundreds of thousands hanging on his nuts and he has damaged their sales, he is openly calling them out abs its funny as fuck seeing them squirm....Theres plenty of pics on getbig of guys who have followed his protocol and done very, very well.... As you'd expect with that amount of aas and peds though so that in essence adds credence to his claims.


he reckons his forum will have a million members in 2-3 years.... (delusional probably but good luck to him)

 

[Rentaghost]

Part and parcel of the problem....


To be fair I personally take everything from most on the Internet with a big pinch of salt, there are so many agendas out there it's appalling.


Time will tell if he has one or not, I'll just enjoy watching it happen.....

 

[Fah_Gedda_Boudit]

That's the case on most forums still though mate, all of those guys disappeared and were replaced by lab whores, supp company reps and bro scientists and before you knew it they had a bunch of young lads thinking they were genuinally going to end up with tits if they mixed deca with test and no AI, didnt run milk thistle, wouldn't grow without leucine, had to run caber or prami with 19-nors.... Let's face it, 9 out of 10 forum posts are complete drivel based on regurgitated info, flawed science of total conjecture.


The guys who know the score are genuinally the guys who have been through the gullible stage, got fucked off with it, just done their own thing and progressed better. Again, most forum users don't fit this bill and the vast majority buy into all this bullshit.

Now this I do (mostly) agree with (although would say that there's always been lab whores & broscientists). But, & this is the big BUT, is what GH15 doing any different? As everyone has pretty much agreed on so far, he is just basically twisting what he advocates around what he has for sale / is probably more profitable...whilst calling everyone else a corrupt bullshitter.

I don't have a problem with his calling people / the supps industry out, let's be honest here, a lot of it is utter shite, but the issue for me is that i don't see what he is doing is any different.

 

[Slight of hand]

In a nutshell mate. Just another take. Clever.

 

[Rentaghost]

I don't think he is different really, he's just got a vast audience on the internet to play with so is more 'publicised' I guess.


As for him having an agenda, fuck knows... I'll stick with what I know personally, same as always. A lot will take him to heart without prethought but at least spending their money on aas and hgh will get them somewhere closer to their goal, than goats blood milk tablets or giraffe semen protein pancakes or some other supp company gimmick.


I guess in that sense it's the lesser of two evils? Depends how you look at it I guess.

 

[Slight of hand]

Its actually Pip

 

[New Hybrid]

Its actually Pip

aha! so thats where he has been.

 

[Fah_Gedda_Boudit]

From one of his articles linked in this thread; without flickign back a page or two it's the very article the OP outlined:

injection should be done every time before bed,,
i also want all injects to be done into the ass right and left cheeks ,, again this is your responsbility to be bodybuilder

Why?

What difference is it going to make whether you jab your gear (& he's talking about gear here, not GH) before bed or when you make up, or midday or whenever?


Yes, I know about site choice affecting uptake of gear, eg glutes offering greater uptake than say delts*, but weight that against "ass right and left cheeks" also means a longer effective half life compared to delts* versus lots of other variables that are just to numerous to list, to complicated to work out & don't really make much difference to real world results anyway.....not that he actually says that's his rationale for jabbing glutes only anyway. All he says is a load of rambling IMO. Anyway, as the prop half life is goign to be extended by using glutes, why not just use enanthate or whatever & use delts? Or is there some magical formula for rising test levels at a certain rate meaning synergy with the growth that can ony be acheived by using prop in the arse at 50mg ED or whatever?

NO ANTI ESTROGENS! i want you to introduce masterona if you have problem with high estrogen after 50 days! you should not have any problem but if you do introduce masterona at 50mg every 2 days. the masterona i stil dont want in only if you suffer from high levels of estrrogen which you shoudl not not even when you get on 1000 mg testosterona yuo still should be ok with estrogen

Haven't we all pretty much already agreed a long time ago that everyone responds differntly to compounds doses? So how can anyone say that 5omg mast is goign to be enough / too much etc or thast you won't get too many estrogenic sides at 1g PW, bearing in mind that testless cycles are now becomign the new black on here?

I just think it's a load of overly complicated shit myself. Seen it loads of times & whether it's acceptedor not depends greatly on who is saying it.


*FGB approved: guru in the making here.

 

[SteamroD]

in a few months the board is going to be full of sponsors and he will be running a mint.


it a win win


we think they there IS a magic combo being handed down by a pro


he makes some coin.