Face Masks Mandatory Again From Tuesday 30th November In Uk

“It’s easier to fool ppl than to convince them that they’ve been fooled” ~Mark Twain

Covid is real gents but if you can’t see it’s been used to push an agenda that isn’t about health your either very stupid or the quote above applies to you. Your ego won’t let you admit you’ve been strung along for 2 years

You’ve done everything you’ve been asked in the last 2 years yet there’s no end in sight

Time to drop the ego and admit their taking the piss out of you

If people can't see it now I doubt they ever will
 
So what's the actual agenda then? Because the people that make claims like this can only talk in vague accusations, and never give a straight answer. What benefit is it for the government to mandate face masks and other covid prevention measures?
I’ve wasted enough time talking to you about this stuff mate

Your one of the people who will never admit something isn’t legitimate here

No offence but that’s it
 
I’ve wasted enough time talking to you about this stuff mate

Your one of the people who will never admit something isn’t legitimate here

No offence but that’s it
I'm not though. You've just never said anything other than vague statements and then as soon as I asked you (genuinely) what you think the real agenda is you get in a huff and say you're not talking anymore.

I've already agreed with you that I don't believe the government should be mandating masks, but at the same time there's no realistic ulterior motive for them to be doing so.
 
Just to add to that war and peace type post the 4 biggest underlying factors in serious covid illness and death are Age, Hypertension, obesity and diabetes though you could argue the last 3 are linked in a lot of cases.
The hypocrisy of all this is nothing has been done for any of these issues and in fact lockdowns have only increased the latter comorbidities in the U.K. at least.
100% but you seem like a sensible guy living in a nonsensical world unfortunately!
 
I'm not though. You've just never said anything other than vague statements and then as soon as I asked you (genuinely) what you think the real agenda is you get in a huff and say you're not talking anymore.

I've already agreed with you that I don't believe the government should be mandating masks, but at the same time there's no realistic ulterior motive for them to be doing so.
I’ve gone over it many times

I can’t go over it again whilst some bloke argues about it being a conspiracy despite all the evidence around them that this stuff is already happening

I’m done trying to explain it to people. There’s clearly people on here who see what is happening then there is people who will never drop the ego and allow themselves to admit what is happening slowly but surely right in front of their face

Do you own research mate if your that arsed. Or alternatively keep making excuses for what is going on. Either way is fine
 
Nice to see OP sticking to that part of his opening post ^^^^^^^:rofl:

You like having cracks at me don't ya buddy lol...
I haven't actually said anything about what I think about the new mask rules so I've stuck to what I said in the opening post.
All I've done is converse with a couple of members from a neutral viewpoint just to try and understand their way of thinking.
Epic fail.....obviously :rofl:

I've already asked for the thread to be deleted coz it's turned into a pissing contest but it seems the admin wants to let it run.
I won't post again in this thread now though seeing as you seem to be watching my every move very closely and looking for reasons to have a pop at me .
:beer:
 
I’ve gone over it many times

I can’t go over it again whilst some bloke argues about it being a conspiracy despite all the evidence around them that this stuff is already happening

I’m done trying to explain it to people. There’s clearly people on here who see what is happening then there is people who will never drop the ego and allow themselves to admit what is happening slowly but surely right in front of their face

Do you own research mate if your that arsed. Or alternatively keep making excuses for what is going on. Either way is fine
Sorry, but the fact you can make multiple posts about it in this thread without naming a single actual reason you think this is happening besides the official ones, or a single piece of evidence makes me very sceptical.

I'm not making excuses for what is going on. I already said I don't agree with it. The way our opinions differ is that you think it's part of some ulterior motive (that you won't name for some reason) and I don't.
 
You like having cracks at me don't ya buddy lol...
I haven't actually said anything about what I think about the new mask rules so I've stuck to what I said in the opening post.
All I've done is converse with a couple of members from a neutral viewpoint just to try and understand their way of thinking.
Epic fail.....obviously :rofl:

I've already asked for the thread to be deleted coz it's turned into a pissing contest but it seems the admin wants to let it run.
I won't post again in this thread now though seeing as you seem to be watching my every move very closely and looking for reasons to have a pop at me .
:beer:

You seem to think it’s personal. Perhaps it’s because you talk nonsense and contradict yourself that I point it out? Go through my posts over the many years I’ve been here and you’ll find I’m a very chilled out guy and never personally attack anyone. However you opened this thread with that statement then proceeded to insult people who you disagree with. The fact you seem to think it’s everyone else on here that disagrees with you that has a problem says a lot about your mindset and attitude towards others.

"If everywhere you go smells like shit, maybe it's time to check your own shoes."
 
Sorry, but the fact you can make multiple posts about it in this thread without naming a single actual reason you think this is happening besides the official ones, or a single piece of evidence makes me very sceptical.

I'm not making excuses for what is going on. I already said I don't agree with it. The way our opinions differ is that you think it's part of some ulterior motive (that you won't name for some reason) and I don't.
Global digital surveillance in the name of public health

The point has never been about the virus it’s been about the Covid passport and everything that is coming in on the back of it

I’ve said that many times. Many many times on this forum. So I’ve not avoided saying it on here I just refuse to go over it again and again and again anymore whilst people say there’s no evidence to support this whilst there is in fact mountains of evidence piling up that people just make excuses for

That’s as far as I’m going with you on this
 
Global digital surveillance in the name of public health

The point has never been about the virus it’s been about the Covid passport and everything that is coming in on the back of it

I’ve said that many times. Many many times on this forum. So I’ve not avoided saying it on here I just refuse to go over it again and again and again anymore whilst people say there’s no evidence to support this whilst there is in fact mountains of evidence piling up that people just make excuses for

That’s as far as I’m going with you on this
Yeah, I definitely agree with that. There's always surveillance creep with any crisis used as an excuse. Same thing happened post 9/11. Other countries are definitely doing this but I don't share your opinion that that's what's happening here with face mask policies. I think the government is genuinely shitting itself about the prospect of having to go into another lockdown if hospitalisations go back up and that's the reason for the sudden kneejerk reaction to bring back masks
 
You seem to think it’s personal. Perhaps it’s because you talk nonsense and contradict yourself that I point it out? Go through my posts over the many years I’ve been here and you’ll find I’m a very chilled out guy and never personally attack anyone. However you opened this thread with that statement then proceeded to insult people who you disagree with. The fact you seem to think it’s everyone else on here that disagrees with you that has a problem says a lot about your mindset and attitude towards others.

"If everywhere you go smells like shit, maybe it's time to check your own shoes."
Off topic but fuck it... I'm guessing that's you in your avi? Great physique :thumb:do you have any logs on here?
 
Off topic but fuck it... I'm guessing that's you in your avi? Great physique :thumb:do you have any logs on here?

Cheers mate, it is indeed but a good few years ago I’m a lot chunkier these days:lol: Went a bit off the rails with drugs/drink/mental health issues after that comp and stopped training for a good while then got into powerlifting. Don’t think I’ve a log on here I’m sure I had one on ukm though.
 
Cheers mate, it is indeed but a good few years ago I’m a lot chunkier these days:lol: Went a bit off the rails with drugs/drink/mental health issues after that comp and stopped training for a good while then got into powerlifting. Don’t think I’ve a log on here I’m sure I had one on ukm though.
Changed from bodybuilding to powerlifting... Deffo signs of mental health issues there :whistling: only joking :lol:sorry to hear that mate, is it because you restricted your self so much precomp do you think that lled to going off the rails? What were your stats back then
I'll have a look and see cheers
 
Changed from bodybuilding to powerlifting... Deffo signs of mental health issues there :whistling: only joking :lol:sorry to hear that mate, is it because you restricted your self so much precomp do you think that lled to going off the rails? What were your stats back then
I'll have a look and see cheers

I had undiagnosed PTSD and depression from time in Afghanistan so chucking tren on top of that and severely restricting calories probably wasn’t the best idea :D. All good now though, enjoy training and eating well. Think I was 85/90kg on stage at 5.11” mate. That was in 2014 though I’m a festive 120kg nowadays but looking to get down to -110 to compete in Scottish GPC early-mid next year.
 
Yeah, I definitely agree with that. There's always surveillance creep with any crisis used as an excuse. Same thing happened post 9/11. Other countries are definitely doing this but I don't share your opinion that that's what's happening here with face mask policies. I think the government is genuinely shitting itself about the prospect of having to go into another lockdown if hospitalisations go back up and that's the reason for the sudden kneejerk reaction to bring back masks
Seems like we are sort of on the same page

I and many others think all the restrictions are connected, a sort of tip toe on the path to making the public accept the digital ID. And everything they will bring in on the back of it (another conversation)

I fear the level of control that they have planned for us is basically unacceptable to most people, hence the fear campaign and therefore the hope (which is clearly working) that it’s conditioning the public to accept it

Some people like yourself I presume would say that’s you just being paranoid thinking of the worst case scenario, my reply to that would be why would you all even allow these people who do not give two fucks about you and your family to end up in the position where the worst case scenario is even a possibility?

This bullshit is all connected and people need to stop going along with it, because where we could end up is a very bad place

This isn’t a conspiracy. This is life with an overbearing control hungry government and how they go about getting that control

They are taking the fucking piss and they are taking the piss for a reason
 
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