Migration From A Non Racist View

NoPain said:
The Europe issue affected us hugely in the NHS as they had to quota non EU immigration more, we have always had a issue if not enough drs and nurses to patients we used to get over this with non EU immigration from countries where the ambition was to become a Dr or a nurse. The nurses thing is also a huge fuck up by our governments as for some reason it was deemed necessary to make it a degree only requirement combined with degrees costing money and burderies being dropped. When my granny and aunt became nurses they trained in hospitals paid low wages but lived on site, could afford to live, now a nurse is having to self fund training, pay for housing and start a low paid career saddled with debt. Make it easier and cheaper for nurses to be nurses, not all need the level of knowledge they do now, what they gain now in bio science understanding is at the loss of bed side manner and care which is what they were taught in the old days. Making it a degree just makes it harder for some non academic nurses to enter and costs loads. A plumber does not need to understand the full chemical structure of water to fit a pipe
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Nurses requiring degrees as well as the Blair government's obsession with 50% of school leavers getting degrees was a huge fuck up. It resulted in nurses that think they're above wiping arses, a huge shortage of skilled trades (justifying immigration) and a surplus of retards that graduated second class in media studies that think they're entitled to get a cushy office job starting at 40k because they "went to uni".
 
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Richard Dick said:
Nurses requiring degrees as well as the Blair government's obsession with 50% of school leavers getting degrees was a huge fuck up. It resulted in nurses that think they're above wiping arses because they went to uni, a huge shortage of school trades (justifying immigration) and a surplus of retards that graduated second class in media studies that think they're entitled to get a cushy office job starting at 40k because they "went to uni".
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Yup plus half of the degrees are just Mickey mouse degrees.
 
Richard Dick said:
Nurses requiring degrees as well as the Blair government's obsession with 50% of school leavers getting degrees was a huge fuck up. It resulted in nurses that think they're above wiping arses because they went to uni, a huge shortage of school trades (justifying immigration) and a surplus of retards that graduated second class in media studies that think they're entitled to get a cushy office job starting at 40k because they "went to uni".
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It's caused huge amounts of deaths as hospitals are no longer cleaned by nurses as much they always had cleaners but nurses cleaned now it's not their job and it just doesn't happen MRSA, sepsis was always in existence it just came back due to lack of clean hospitals as the nurses see themselves above it
 
Richard Dick said:
Nurses requiring degrees as well as the Blair government's obsession with 50% of school leavers getting degrees was a huge fuck up. It resulted in nurses that think they're above wiping arses, a huge shortage of skilled trades (justifying immigration) and a surplus of retards that graduated second class in media studies that think they're entitled to get a cushy office job starting at 40k because they "went to uni".
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It all started with that monumental cunt Thatcher.
 
s man said:
Yes if they’re nurses and Dr. Mainly Targeted immigration is a good idea

But surely you understand NHS backlogs have very little to do with Migrates and more to do with currently covid restrictions and previously poor spending and shrinking bed numbers. Compare us to Germany. They take in far more people yet have double the bed numbers, better spending and better systems. The NHS is a mismanaged underfunded black hole.
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So why would adding fuel to the fire help? The narrative is protect the NHS but only from British citizens not economic migrants?
 
Adding more people to a fucked NHS, shortage of houses in areas where you can get a job, over crowded schools, GP surgery’s over run, a monumental homeless, mental health and elderly care problem with a shortage of nurses…nursing is a job not many want to do because….over worked/underpaid due to? Too many people and not enough nurses! Migration is a vicious circle that must be controlled.
 
Rob O’tren said:
The same could be said for anywhere else in the world. Russia for example’ however in terms of land mass and population the southeast is the most densely populated by mostly from economic migrants with nothing to offer.
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Fuck you talking about? Entire far east of Russia barely has 6 million people. And the migrants that are there probably contribute a lot more to Russia than you contribute to the UK except of course to your local racist meet up groups.
 
Richard Dick said:
The whole point of mass migration is to keep wages artificially low at the bottom end of the scale. Then if anyone complains, you just cry "racist" to silence them. You can already see this in effect as the decrease in migration due to brexit/covid has driven demand for blue collar jobs through the roof and put up wages as a result.
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Bullshit logic. Brexit and covid have also driven prices through the roof. You're paying over 30% more for a second hand car and can't even get hold of a new one in many cases.

Plus the increase is temporary. Give it a year or two to settle down and it'll be a whole different ball game. That's if half of the employers are still even around.

Migration is still going on rampantly. You just choose not to notice it.
 
TONY FERGUSON said:
Bullshit logic. Brexit and covid have also driven prices through the roof. You're paying over 30% more for a second hand car and can't even get hold of a new one in many cases.

Plus the increase is temporary. Give it a year or two to settle down and it'll be a whole different ball game. That's if half of the employers are still even around.

Migration is still going on rampantly. You just choose not to notice it.
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Not really. I'm in direct contact with managers struggling like fuck to keep/recruit drivers and whinging about polish boys going home and uk guys "being pricks" refusing to pick up the slack or quitting to go places offering more money or sign on bonuses. I've told them this is a long time coming and what do they expect after wages being stagnant for 20 years.

Fail to see the connection between the price of a secondhand car and the supply and demand issues in the labour market.
 
Rob O’tren said:
If anyone can explain to my why 30000 Somalians added to the borough of Lambeth is an asset/benefit to the country I’m all ears!
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That's the crux. Highly skilled immigration where there's a genuine shortage is pretty much a net benefit, although detrimental to the country of origin. Skilled labor like we've had from Eastern Europe the last few decades is a big benefit to employers getting cheap labour and skilled white collar workers getting cheap plumbers, window washers, etc. but it hurts blue collar workers by diluting the labour pool and destroying the principle of supply and demand dictating fair wages.

Semi-literate, unskilled, non-English speaking economic migrants like the ones trying to cross the channel are just to everyone's detriment.
 
TONY FERGUSON said:
It provides the impetus for 30000 of you and your ilk to get the fuck out of the area in disgust and go settle in some backwater territory. Everybody's a winner.
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I take that as you agree that 30000 Somalians aren’t a benefit to the country then. Oh and while you’re here Tony I sincerely apologise for slavery! And I will be campaigning to remove the grandson of infamous Ghanaian slave trader Mohamed Babatu from teaching in Ghanaian schools along with the removal of the Edward Colston statue in Bristol MmmmmKay!!!
 
Richard Dick said:
That's the crux. Highly skilled immigration where there's a genuine shortage is pretty much a net benefit, although detrimental to the country of origin. Skilled labor like we've had from Eastern Europe the last few decades is a big benefit to employers getting cheap labour and skilled white collar workers getting cheap plumbers, window washers, etc. but it hurts blue collar workers by diluting the labour pool and destroying the principle of supply and demand dictating fair wages.

Semi-literate, unskilled, non-English speaking economic migrants like the ones trying to cross the channel are just to everyone's detriment.
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I’m not saying we don’t have a shortage of fat lazy fucks with no dad’s of our own lol adding more to my point…we don’t need more?!
My take on it would be if you are able to pass an assessment proving you are fit for work then you will train to fill the shortages we need to fill or you will loose all benefits.
 
TONY FERGUSON said:
Fuck you talking about? Entire far east of Russia barely has 6 million people. And the migrants that are there probably contribute a lot more to Russia than you contribute to the UK except of course to your local racist meet up groups.
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Yeah….I’m looking at buying property in Barbados because I hate being surrounded by people of colour lol Anyway I’m off to lay some flowers on Mark Duggan’s grave then pay some money in to the George Floyd remembrance foundation!
 
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