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[HTL]

I can, but first I'll reiterate that Bush/Blair are amongst the most despicable leaders the West has had and could probably be convicted of war crimes over Iraq.

But yes, Putin is still worse. Here's a few examples that should highlight the difference:

The Iraq war was subject to mass protests, same as Russians are doing with regard to Ukraine. Unlike in Russia, Iraq war protesters weren't arrested and put in prison.

Many journalists have been critical of Bush/Blair. Unlike Putin's critics they're still alive and living normal lives. They didn't have to flee to a different country and/or get assassinated.

The western media was in fact critical of the Iraq war, and continued to question the WMD issue. In Russia journalists are forbidden from even using the word "war" to describe what's happening in Ukraine under threat of 15 year prison sentences.

There's many more examples you can easily find yourself if you're being ernest about wanting to know.

So he put protestors in prison. Jesus what a psychopath.

Critics of the west are living normal lives. I’m sure Julian assange etc would agree.

The western media and journalists are censored just as much as Russias are. Post anything on YouTube,Facebook,TikTok etc that resembles anything other than the narrative and it will be deleted and you will be removed.

I’m pretty sure you have convinced absolutely no one that Putin is any worse than Bush/Blair.

 

[Richard Dick]

So he put protestors in prison. Jesus what a psychopath.

Critics of the west are living normal lives. I’m sure Julian assange etc would agree.

The western media and journalists are censored just as much as Russias are. Post anything on YouTube,Facebook,TikTok etc that resembles anything other than the narrative and it will be deleted and you will be removed.

I’m pretty sure you have convinced absolutely no one that Putin is any worse than Bush/Blair.

Ah, so you asked a question but were immediately ready to dismiss any answer. I don't need to convince anyone Putin is worse than Western leaders because basically everyone reasonable already accepts this as fact.

 

[s man]

I can, but first I'll reiterate that Bush/Blair are amongst the most despicable leaders the West has had and could probably be convicted of war crimes over Iraq.

But yes, Putin is still worse. Here's a few examples that should highlight the difference:

The Iraq war was subject to mass protests, same as Russians are doing with regard to Ukraine. Unlike in Russia, Iraq war protesters weren't arrested and put in prison.

Many journalists have been critical of Bush/Blair. Unlike Putin's critics they're still alive and living normal lives. They didn't have to flee to a different country and/or get assassinated.

The western media was in fact critical of the Iraq war, and continued to question the WMD issue. In Russia journalists are forbidden from even using the word "war" to describe what's happening in Ukraine under threat of 15 year prison sentences.

There's many more examples you can easily find yourself if you're being ernest about wanting to know.

There’s counter examples I can give to a lot of what you said here and if you were being ernest yourself you’d find examples yourself.
Snowden, assignations/mysterious deaths, drugs cartel finances secretly funding wars as millions of Americans died from addictions, people being black listed and their lives destroyed for having the wrong opinion. People killings themselves as the government destroyed their lives only for it later to come out they were right etc etc etc

 

[Richard Dick]

There’s counter examples I can give to a lot of what you said here and if you were being ernest yourself you’d find examples yourself.
Snowden, assignations/mysterious deaths, drugs cartel finances secretly funding wars as millions of Americans died from addictions, people being black listed and their lives destroyed for having the wrong opinion. People killings themselves as the government destroyed their lives only for it later to come out they were right etc etc etc

Of course and I would never claim Western governments are innocent, but if you were to be honest you would surely recognise there's still a large gulf between this and Putin's regime, no?

 

[Big Balls]

Well the invasion has nothing to do with the biolab, but you're right that Putin has been eager to reclaim Ukraine for years, yes.

So tell us all about Biolabs ...what do you know ? Please inform us

 

[HTL]

Ah, so you asked a question but were immediately ready to dismiss any answer. I don't need to convince anyone Putin is worse than Western leaders because basically everyone reasonable already accepts this as fact.

Not dismiss, just a counter argument showing zero difference between each leader yet you somehow still say Putin is worse and if I disagree then I am unreasonable. Do you know how silly that sounds?

To me there is no better or worse and they are all cut from the same cloth. I just find it astonishing that you place the likes of bush/Blair in slightly higher regard than Putin. I’m sure the millions of Iraq/afghan/Syrian national would think your talking nonsense much like I do.

 

[GhostOf2Can]

This thread is gold

It’s literally a deep dive in to the mind of a brain washed sheep

 

[Big Balls]

I can remember they asked for volunteers to go to this place. One idiot wanted to go but we told him to stop being a clown. They used army personnel who went for experiments. tested all sorts of shit there.

 

[Richard Dick]

Not dismiss, just a counter argument showing zero difference between each leader yet you somehow still say Putin is worse and if I disagree then I am unreasonable. Do you know how silly that sounds?

To me there is no better or worse and they are all cut from the same cloth. I just find it astonishing that you place the likes of bush/Blair in slightly higher regard than Putin. I’m sure the millions of Iraq/afghan/Syrian national would think your talking nonsense much like I do.

But you didn't. You compared the Russian government literally threatening 15 year prison sentences for using the term "war" to videos being deleted from tiktok. You must realise how laughable that is?

 

[Richard Dick]

This thread is gold

It’s literally a deep dive in to the mind of a brain washed sheep

Believing Putin is worse than Western leaders is being a brainwashed sheep but rejecting the mainstream narrative and instead adopting the polar opposite (which just so happens to fit perfectly with Russian narrative) is being a free thinker? You realise there are points between the two extremes? There's plenty of times I've disagreed with mainstream narratives and told you such, but you disregard that every single time because I don't agree with you.

 

[Big Balls]

 

[GhostOf2Can]

Believing Putin is worse than Western leaders is being a brainwashed sheep but rejecting the mainstream narrative and instead adopting the polar opposite (which just so happens to fit perfectly with Russian narrative) is being a free thinker? You realise there are points between the two extremes? There's plenty of times I've disagreed with mainstream narratives and told you such, but you disregard that every single time because I don't agree with you.

Why would u just assume I was talking about you haha

 

[GhostOf2Can]

Take the afternoon off dick

 

[Richard Dick]

Why would u just assume I was talking about you haha

Because it fits perfectly with your argumentative style, of course. Are you saying you weren't?

 

[Big Balls]

Take the afternoon off dick

Dick just gotta Dick