Getting Shredded Weight Lost?

[Hilly]

damn. Kick in the teeth. Am I right in saying you were most peeled in first show? Could have possibly won it if you dent lose muscle?

Eddy said if I had turned up how I looked 3-4 werks out id of pushed for top 3 instead 5th

 

[Phmg]

Eddy said if I had turned up how I looked 3-4 werks out id of pushed for top 3 instead 5th

Well that's just part of the learning process then. Not going to nail things first time unless by accident in my opinion. And it's part of most of our nature to want to experiment.

I'm not going to even bother with water carb or sodium loading. No time to experiment with that stuff and will prob get it wrong first time and look worse, just rock up as I am and stick on some tan and pump up.

 

[hsmann87]

Probably also worth mentioning here with regards to water and fat when it comes to weight lost:

Water is stored in 2 places: the subcutaneous layer AND in muscle. If you are truly shredded to the bone, you will not have any subQ fat to store water in and it will ONLY be stored in the muscle which is where you want it.

Which is why when people are fat(ter), they will have higher fluctuations in bodyweight from morning to evening and they will look noticeably leaner when they wake up as opposed to just before bed.

Which is another reason why guys who arent in proper shape always look "watery" on stage. It is a combination of being too fat and then watery. If youre fat, well, youre fat lol so will look smooth on stage. Then if you take in fluid it will be stored in subQ and you will look even more watery.

Get a truly shredded mofo on stage and you can give them all the water you want, they will still look dry as anything as there is no subQ fat for the water to be stored in. In fact, the more water the better as it will most probably just all go to the muscle (or out of urethra) and they will look fuller and fuller.

Which is another reason why diuretics IMO are dumb. Just get in proper shape. Get rid of all subQ fat. No need for diuretics and fucking yourself up.

As you diet down, you will notice that the difference in bodyweight and visible condition fluctuations will become lesser and lesser between morning and evening as you have less subQ fat and store less water in the subQ layer. And that is a good measure for condition also IMO. If your daily weight over the hours doesnt change much all whilst your chugging gallons of the stuff, chances are it is because you are getting pretty darn lean!

 

[Phmg]

Probably also worth mentioning here with regards to water and fat when it comes to weight lost:

Water is stored in 2 places: the subcutaneous layer AND in muscle. If you are truly shredded to the bone, you will not have any subQ fat to store water in and it will ONLY be stored in the muscle which is where you want it.

Which is why when people are fat(ter), they will have higher fluctuations in bodyweight from morning to evening and they will look noticeably leaner when they wake up as opposed to just before bed.

Which is another reason why guys who arent in proper shape always look "watery" on stage. It is a combination of being too fat and then watery. If youre fat, well, youre fat lol so will look smooth on stage. Then if you take in fluid it will be stored in subQ and you will look even more watery.

Get a truly shredded mofo on stage and you can give them all the water you want, they will still look dry as anything as there is no subQ fat for the water to be stored in. In fact, the more water the better as it will most probably just all go to the muscle (or out of urethra) and they will look fuller and fuller.

Which is another reason why diuretics IMO are dumb. Just get in proper shape. Get rid of all subQ fat. No need for diuretics and fucking yourself up.

As you diet down, you will notice that the difference in bodyweight and visible condition fluctuations will become lesser and lesser between morning and evening as you have less subQ fat and store less water in the subQ layer. And that is a good measure for condition also IMO. If your daily weight over the hours doesnt change much all whilst your chugging gallons of the stuff, chances are it is because you are getting pretty darn lean!

Think thats true for naturals, bit different assisted.

I weighed 86kg last night at bed, woke up 84.1kg Visual condition isnt much difference different though.

 

[hsmann87]

Think thats true for naturals, bit different assisted.

I weighed 86kg last night at bed, woke up 84.1kg Visual condition isnt much difference different though.

sorry yeah i meant for naturals as that's all i can really comment on!

i suspect different for unassisted. Jose Raymond is a prime example. Dude looks literally obese 7 weeks out yet shows up on stage lean as fuck. its mental haha

 

[Hilly]

Probably also worth mentioning here with regards to water and fat when it comes to weight lost:

Water is stored in 2 places: the subcutaneous layer AND in muscle. If you are truly shredded to the bone, you will not have any subQ fat to store water in and it will ONLY be stored in the muscle which is where you want it.

Which is why when people are fat(ter), they will have higher fluctuations in bodyweight from morning to evening and they will look noticeably leaner when they wake up as opposed to just before bed.

Which is another reason why guys who arent in proper shape always look "watery" on stage. It is a combination of being too fat and then watery. If youre fat, well, youre fat lol so will look smooth on stage. Then if you take in fluid it will be stored in subQ and you will look even more watery.

Get a truly shredded mofo on stage and you can give them all the water you want, they will still look dry as anything as there is no subQ fat for the water to be stored in. In fact, the more water the better as it will most probably just all go to the muscle (or out of urethra) and they will look fuller and fuller.

Which is another reason why diuretics IMO are dumb. Just get in proper shape. Get rid of all subQ fat. No need for diuretics and fucking yourself up.

As you diet down, you will notice that the difference in bodyweight and visible condition fluctuations will become lesser and lesser between morning and evening as you have less subQ fat and store less water in the subQ layer. And that is a good measure for condition also IMO. If your daily weight over the hours doesnt change much all whilst your chugging gallons of the stuff, chances are it is because you are getting pretty darn lean!

Agree on every point bar diuretics. They can have a huge impact if used right

 

[blackbeard]

you are one of few with IMO very good genetics so can probably get away with "lesser" condition

BUT ive said it before and im gonna say it again - if conman shows up with ULTRA shredded veins in glutes condition then its lights out game over hand him the trophy once prejudging is over without a doubt

you just gotta suffer! if that means turkey, white fish and asparagus for a few weeks then so be it! fucking do it!

I " cheat" in this way too. Conman posted some peeled dude having a body pod on camera coming out 6.2% IIRC.
Based on that I think I compete only just under 10% but the waist goes dinky and gives the appearance I'm leaner than I am. lt Was taping 31" @ 94kg last show, I hide body fat in the delts tris back.

 

[smallfry]

Any one watch Christian Guzman on YouTube? One of his clients in the last couple vids is about 5'6 I'm the 130's. Absolutely peeled! Really appreciating natty physiques at the mo, much better conditioning IMO

 

[Gifford chilford]

The guys back in the 70's werent as shredded as today with all the diuretics available, but they looked better, what bf% would you say arnold was here?

 

[Con]

The guys back in the 70's werent as shredded as today with all the diuretics available, but they looked better, what bf% would you say arnold was here?View attachment 30576

Probably around 8%

 

[Phmg]

The guys back in the 70's werent as shredded as today with all the diuretics available, but they looked better, what bf% would you say arnold was here?View attachment 30576

Yeah, that's better in my opinion. And seeing as I'm doing classics which is aimed at this era, it's the body fat level I'm aiming for.

....that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it

 

[Con]

Yeah, that's better in my opinion. And seeing as I'm doing classics which is aimed at this era, it's the body fat level I'm aiming for.

....that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it

Pity classic didn't take that route.
Instead it's the see how close to death we can get the body fat class lol

 

[Con]

Motivate me mofo's.
How many lb to come off to be in shape (remember this is natural so not holding any real water)

 

[Phmg]

Motivate me mofo's.
How many lb to come off to be in shape (remember this is natural so not holding any real water)

5lb lol.

 

[Con]

5lb lol.

PMSL!