High Tren Low Test ?

[thesaintishere]

Tren has been found to totally inhibit de novo lipogenesis. You are right that most mammals are highly inefficient at converting carbohydrates to adipose tissue, and fat will be the primary stored macronutrient, but it does still happen. Inevitably as caloric needs increase, as will fat storage. I don't do this myself by the way, just a theory I found interesting!

If that is true then diet and amount of fats consumed (or not consumed) won't be relevant at all then, as the tren will be stopping any conversion of carbs to fat full stop, regardless of fat intake levels?

Have you got the study that shows that as I couldn't find it a while back when I looked? I have seen it discussed many times but never actually saw the study itself so assumed it was a myth!

 

[Joe Jeffery]

If that is true then diet and amount of fats consumed (or not consumed) won't be relevant at all then, as the tren will be stopping any conversion of carbs to fat full stop, regardless of fat intake levels?

Have you got the study that shows that as I couldn't find it a while back when I looked? I have seen it discussed many times but never actually saw the study itself so assumed it was a myth!

No, because it does not inhibit the conversion if dietary fat to adipose tissue. So the amount of carbohydrate consumed will be irrelevant, as long as your daily fat macros are >25g I would imagine.

I do have the study, but it's paid for and on subscription. Are you signed up to JISSN? If you are I can link it and you can view it.

 

[thesaintishere]

No, because it does not inhibit the conversion if dietary fat to adipose tissue. So the amount of carbohydrate consumed will be irrelevant, as long as your daily fat macros are >25g I would imagine.

I do have the study, but it's paid for and on subscription. Are you signed up to JISSN? If you are I can link it and you can view it.

I mean in regards to de novo lipogenesis, i.e. if Tren inhibits it completely then how can anything (e.g. the levels of fats consumed as mentioned in your earlier post) have an impact upon the conversion of carbs to fat, if that process cannot occur when trenbolone is present in the body?

I don't have a subscription, but thanks for offering.

 

[Joe Jeffery]

I mean in regards to de novo lipogenesis, i.e. if Tren inhibits it completely then how can anything (e.g. the levels of fats consumed as mentioned in your earlier post) have an impact upon the conversion of carbs to fat, if that process cannot occur when trenbolone is present in the body?

I don't have a subscription, but thanks for offering.

I'll try and screenshot some parts of the study and upload if the app lets you. I'll have a little look on pubmed as well.

I think I understand your point. My reasoning was to consume the majority of your additional macronutrients from carbs (aside protein) when running tren as inhibiting de novo lipogenesis will mean those carbohydrates will be metabolised in a more favourable way than any fat macronutrient will. I.e less fat storage, more nutrients shuttled to muscle tissue.

Sorry if I'm still misunderstanding man.

 

[thesaintishere]

I'll try and screenshot some parts of the study and upload if the app lets you. I'll have a little look on pubmed as well.

I think I understand your point. My reasoning was to consume the majority of your additional macronutrients from carbs (aside protein) when running tren as inhibiting de novo lipogenesis will mean those carbohydrates will be metabolised in a more favourable way than any fat macronutrient will. I.e less fat storage, more nutrients shuttled to muscle tissue.

Sorry if I'm still misunderstanding man.

Yes, that makes sense now! Basically consume fuck all fat to 100% ensure no fat is laid down (because the carbs can't convert to fat, therefore it is impossible to lay down fat if there is no/very low fat in your diet and the carbs are being inhibited from converting to fat).

In the grand scheme of things (due to the human inefficiency of de novo lipogenesis mentioned before) I doubt it would have any 'real world' effects, but it sure is interesting and another way of looking at things.