Is There Any Point In Competing In The Ukbff Or Nabba If Natural?

[blackbeard]

Why would I, just to prove to you that my training partner is a natural. I'm not that bothered whether you believe me or not.

My training partner is a BNBF natural also, his highest achievement is 3rd at their British in Masters class 5' 7" competes at 77kg.
I know he's a natty because he's had stints in the Priory for cocaine addiction, won't touch alcohol either, he's got such an addictive personality he can't touch any substances.

 

[Gifford chilford]

i know a list of people competing in these feds, and in natural pl feds that are walking pharmacies, however they wouldnt do well in untested ones

 

[Con]

My training partner is a BNBF natural also, his highest achievement is 3rd at their British in Masters class 5' 7" competes at 77kg.
I know he's a natty because he's had stints in the Priory for cocaine addiction, won't touch alcohol either, he's got such an addictive personality he can't touch any substances.

77kg at 5ft7 puts him just over the classic limit (77kg is limit for 5ft8).
So we're talking about a genetically elite athlete that has been at this a long time and he is classic sized.
Says it all really.

The show I just did is called "drug tested" and is purely done for public appearance.
2 guys got tested out of 50 men.
Some guys walking around covered in purple boils other guys with horrible gyno and finally dudes competing over 200lb at heights under 5ft10.

The only natural federations are the WNBF imo.
Just look at the winners bar a couple of ultra freaks (Rich Godzdecki from UK as example) are all tiny and I mean really tiny just cut to shreds so under the lights it looks good.

 

[Con]

A slightly different angle but do you guys think bodybuilding should be drug tested????
I think it should like the international IFBB shows are with a urine test.
Why you ask? Because it makes bb look far more legit in the public eye.
Can you still gear your self up to the eye balls? Of course you just have to be smarter.
I am all for making bb look like a real sport and all other sports are drug tested.

 

[Con]

I suppose so....

But then you can't really say bodybuilding isn't about steroids at the pro levels, it doesn't seem feasible to deny it in the same way that football, ice hockey or rugby could deny its prevelant.


I don't think it's ever going to be a mainstream sport, it's always gonna be a niche market so I don't see the point in trying to make out like its something it isn't.



It would level the playing field though, that's never a bad thing.

It'd swiftly become apparent who's got the genetics if you took the drugs away.... But it'd be shit wouldn't it. There'd be a tiny percentile who could take part.

All I can say from a business perspective.
New client comes in and asks about training.
Me " I have won bb contests as a heavy weight here are my pictures" then "oh that's cool" while thinking "all drugs doubt he can get me in awesome shape" then 50/50 chance they sign up.
compared to
Me " I have a pro card in drug tested bb" them "OMG that is insane can I sign up right now?!" no joke I have made close to 4k in the past 3 weeks thanks to this "pro card" best competitive move I have ever made.

 

[Phmg]

77kg at 5ft7 puts him just over the classic limit (77kg is limit for 5ft8).
So we're talking about a genetically elite athlete that has been at this a long time and he is classic sized.
Says it all really.

And classics is supposed to simulate the 70's and 80's bodybuilding size and shape.....and they were all smashing gear

 

[Con]

And classics is supposed to simulate the 70's and 80's bodybuilding size and shape.....and they were all smashing gear

When in reality classics has turned into "who can get the closest to death with conditioning".
Classics is the ultimate glute contest!
Walnut rock hard glutes = winner
Rest of the body can look like a POW but if the glutes are there.....

 

[Phmg]

When in reality classics has turned into "who can get the closest to death with conditioning".
Classics is the ultimate glute contest!
Walnut rock hard glutes = winner
Rest of the body can look like a POW but if the glutes are there.....

You a fan of the idea of classic bodybuilding then? Just not the way it's judged/moderated?

 

[Con]

You a fan of the idea of classic bodybuilding then? Just not the way it's judged/moderated?

I do like it yes and I can't argue with the judging conditioning is super important.
It's just not the original intent of the class when it was developed.

 

[Tommy6]

Boy I sometimes train with is an Inbf(I think that's the fed) pro n has a local natural show coming to Livingston this month.

He admits though that guys with looser diets etc can better him purely because they use aas.


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