Your deadlift theories please

hsmann87

hsmann87

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Just interested to know others' thoughts really.

Conventional deads? Rack pulls? Defecit deads?

Deadlift only workouts?

Deadlifts to start the workout?

Deadlifts to end the workout?



Personally, for the most part I like to do conventional deads at the END of a back workout (ie after pullups/pulldowns, rows, rear delts and hyperextentions) as I feel this places greater stress on my back muscles as a whole. Also, since they are "pre-fatigued" I can use less weight, thereby reducing the risk of injury.

This isnt always the case though. Sometimes I will start with deadlifts and go heavy and put my all into it and finish with pullups/pulldowns and DB rows.

Occasionally I will even just do deadlift-only workouts: pyramid style. And that has killed me also.

One thing I cannot do however is bent rows after deadlifting...I notice some people do this and if it works for them fair dos. but my lower back and core are SMASHED after to be able to do any form of bent over row??? Perhaps its because i never wear a belt?

Another thing: rackpulls: I got into them a year ago and really started smashing them. I liked them because i could rackpull more than i could deadlift. For me, I then got lazy and did them a LOT more than conventional deads simply because they required less effort and I was able to lift more weight. But i dont feel these are as beneficial as conventional deads. So from today on i am eliminating rackpulls and doing proper MANLY deadlifts off the floor :)

Lets hear your thoughts....:beer:

But all in all, deadlifts are just the greatest exercise in existence! We must ALL pay true homage to them:bounce:
 
Note: this is as a powerlifter I am saying this, not for bodybuilding.

Deadlifts always start of my deadlift session, for obvious reasons its the main lift so want to be fresh for it, I do it sumo if its max work as thats my preferred comp stance.
This is followed by Back assistance work, so BB Rows, pulldowns, pull ups etc all hypertrophy rep ranges 8-10 usually.

I do rack pulls to work on lockout and defecit deads to work on speed off the floor, both are part of assisance work, never the main lift. I cycle through this as part of the assistance work depending on what stage of comp prep I am at and what I feel was my weakest part of my deadlift at the last competition.
 
Merat said:
Note: this is as a powerlifter I am saying this, not for bodybuilding.
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Thats cool man. Just wanna hear EVERYONES thoughts:

BBers, PLers, "powerbuilders", people who train for pu55y, people who train for sports etc etc

I personally think that the deadlift is the one exercise that should never be missed. Its the most important one out there...even more important than bicep curls believe it or not :lol::lol::lol:
 
hsmann87 said:
Thats cool man. Just wanna hear EVERYONES thoughts:

BBers, PLers, "powerbuilders", people who train for pu55y, people who train for sports etc etc

I personally think that the deadlift is the one exercise that should never be missed. Its the most important one out there...even more important than bicep curls believe it or not :lol::lol::lol:
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Haha agreed man, nothing puts more hairs on your chest than a good workout with deadlifts as the core of it :D
 
Also, since they are "pre-fatigued" I can use less weight, thereby reducing the risk of injury.
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I never bought into this one, utter tosh imo.

If your muscles are pre-fatigued, so are you as a whole!
Fatigue of muscles/mind/cns = bad form = injury no matter what the weight!
 
I always Deadlift first and follow up with Pendlay Rows (rowing off the floor).

All done without a belt or straps, dont find it a problem for my lower back.
 
Ive always been from the school that the lifts you use the most weight on, are the lifts you do first. Deads, squats, whatever. Heavy lifts first.

I know weight isnt the be all and end all, but if you swap deadlifts from the end of your session to the start, and as a result stick 10kg on the bar, its worth it.
 
dont deadlift tbh as dont get a good feeling on my back muscles with them, just alot of legs. did get into them for a while but stopped as it just wasnt working for me, doubt ill ever deadlift again. much prefer barbell rows and doing hypers for lowerback
 
Nothing adds thickness to your back like deadlifts.

I don't do them anymore though :'( Messed my back up last year, and I still don't feel comfortable deadlifting. But then I still don't think my back is fully sorted.



To the OP, I've always done deadlifts at the start. Since it's such a hard exercise, I don't think I can imagine giving it my all at the end lol. Regarding rack/deficit - both excellent. They help sort out sticking points well :)

When running sheiko, I used to do an exercise called: "Deadlift to knees" - pretty good imo, have never seen anyone do them before but they are from a russian program lol. Never had a lower back pump like it.

Speed deadlifts are excellent too
 
crouchmagic said:
Nothing adds thickness to your back like deadlifts.

I don't do them anymore though :'( Messed my back up last year, and I still don't feel comfortable deadlifting. But then I still don't think my back is fully sorted.



To the OP, I've always done deadlifts at the start. Since it's such a hard exercise, I don't think I can imagine giving it my all at the end lol. Regarding rack/deficit - both excellent. They help sort out sticking points well :)

When running sheiko, I used to do an exercise called: "Deadlift to knees" - pretty good imo, have never seen anyone do them before but they are from a russian program lol. Never had a lower back pump like it.

Speed deadlifts are excellent too
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Sheiko is one bizzare program, Benching 3 sets, then squatting, then going back to benching for 2 more sets.

I have a friend whos on it who say the results are great if you stick to it though, I never could with all the predisposed %'s and rep targets.
 
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