Can muscles adapt to extreme physical strain without adequate protein?

I thi k the body will adapt in terms of being able to cope with the work load yes however unless genetically predispositioned to growth I think size changes would be minimal. If the raw materials are not going in then the body has no materials to grow with
 
I thi k the body will adapt in terms of being able to cope with the work load yes however unless genetically predispositioned to growth I think size changes would be minimal. If the raw materials are not going in then the body has no materials to grow with

Aye, makes sense. So how would it cope with the work load?
 
Aye, makes sense. So how would it cope with the work load?

A muscle can adapt become stronger or improve it's endurance with very little size increase some of this ability to cope is the conditioning of the central nervous system some the muscle itself. If muscular endurance created size marathon runners would have huge legs. The body's ability to adapt and cope in less than ideal environments is amazing. We as bbers prefer to leave nothing to chance so run very high protein intakes to ensure that we are never short of resources
 
The body adapts well to all kinds of physical stresses, but each kind of stress induces a slightly different set of adaptations and not all adaptations actually lead to a high level of muscle mass - high volume physical workload increases mostly the endurance capabilities of the muscles used, and to a minimal degree strength and muscle size to match the work done, but it can only do this to a point.

If you try doing both together (high volume high frequency and high intensity), you will develop only to a certain point in all things before the overall stimulus and resulting stresses become too big for the body to further adapt and you either stagnate or hit overtraining syndrome (and not just stagnation but regression).

Workers like labourers develop a bit of muscle and some good endurance capacity to a point, but adaptation always stops at a certain level (much below the level you'd halt on if just trainig for one kind of adaptation), and this level dictates the maximum effort that person can then work at. Since no labourer either develops the endurance of an average marathon runner, physique of an average bb'er, or the strength of an average strongman, it shows that this kind of activity doesn't lead to optimal adaptions in any one particular area, it simply leads to adaptations to do that particualr job 'a bit better' than before.

Best way to train for size is bodybuilding style training, best way to develop strength is strongman or PL style training, best way to develop an all round functional physique is to use a mix of training techniques... but with the thought always in mind that you can never look like a bodybuilder, be as strong as a powerlifter and have as much endurance as a marathon runner by training this way - you will develop an excellent and above average range of physical capabilities, but won't achieve close to your genetic potential in any one particular aspect.
 
The body adapts well to all kinds of physical stresses, but each kind of stress induces a slightly different set of adaptations and not all adaptations actually lead to a high level of muscle mass - high volume physical workload increases mostly the endurance capabilities of the muscles used, and to a minimal degree strength and muscle size to match the work done, but it can only do this to a point.

If you try doing both together (high volume high frequency and high intensity), you will develop only to a certain point in all things before the overall stimulus and resulting stresses become too big for the body to further adapt and you either stagnate or hit overtraining syndrome (and not just stagnation but regression).

Workers like labourers develop a bit of muscle and some good endurance capacity to a point, but adaptation always stops at a certain level (much below the level you'd halt on if just trainig for one kind of adaptation), and this level dictates the maximum effort that person can then work at. Since no labourer either develops the endurance of an average marathon runner, physique of an average bb'er, or the strength of an average strongman, it shows that this kind of activity doesn't lead to optimal adaptions in any one particular area, it simply leads to adaptations to do that particualr job 'a bit better' than before.

Best way to train for size is bodybuilding style training, best way to develop strength is strongman or PL style training, best way to develop an all round functional physique is to use a mix of training techniques... but with the thought always in mind that you can never look like a bodybuilder, be as strong as a powerlifter and have as much endurance as a marathon runner by training this way - you will develop an excellent and above average range of physical capabilities, but won't achieve close to your genetic potential in any one particular aspect.

Thanks for this @Dtlv . By the way, I arnt planning on changing careers. Just genuinely interested in the thought behind what id heard. Thanks again bud :D
 
Lol, forgot to say about protein - nutrition, especially protein and total calories, is a prime limiting factor in sustaining a physique, and also a limiting factor in getting it to adapt further. You can go a fair way on just an average diet with traiining of physical activity, as most average diets already exceed the nutritional needs of an average physique (the only thing stopping all people on average physiques looking more muscular is they don't stimulate the growth through exercise)... so start training and make no dietary improvements at all and for a while just about everyone will grow anyway.

Then suddenly need catches up intake, and nutritional need suddenly then exceeds the normal diet, and to continue to improve diet has to change. From this is point onwards diet has to be constantly tweaked to maintain continual improvement, and improvements get smaller until the point is reached where the body is doing the most exercise it can handle and eating the consuming the most nutrients it can digest... at this point genetic limit is reached.
 
No idea mate - whos conan the barbarian lol

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Lol, forgot to say about protein - nutrition, especially protein and total calories, is a prime limiting factor in sustaining a physique, and also a limiting factor in getting it to adapt further. You can go a fair way on just an average diet with traiining of physical activity, as most average diets already exceed the nutritional needs of an average physique (the only thing stopping all people on average physiques looking more muscular is they don't stimulate the growth through exercise)... so start training and make no dietary improvements at all and for a while just about everyone will grow anyway.

Then suddenly need catches up intake, and nutritional need suddenly then exceeds the normal diet, and to continue to improve diet has to change. From this is point onwards diet has to be constantly tweaked to maintain continual improvement, and improvements get smaller until the point is reached where the body is doing the most exercise it can handle and eating the consuming the most nutrients it can digest... at this point genetic limit is reached.

Cheers for all the info bud :beer:

So when you say
...until the point is reached where the body is doing the most exercise it can handle and eating the consuming the most nutrients it can digest... at this point genetic limit is reached.

Is this where the use of steriods can make a difference? (Again im not planning on using, nor do I have anything against using - just to be clear :) )
 
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