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Scott Francis Discussion On Facebook

Dont know Scott or Aaron but Scott does come across like a twat, but to be fair if the pics can be believed he has a lot of good athletes in awesome condition. And this not a dig at Aaron but in is journal he was praising him saying its the biggest and leanest he has been and what ever scott doing is working etc, while eveyone around was slagging scott Aaron was defending him and his methods, i presume thats still available for people to read?
But first impressions usually correct Scott seems like a bit of a chancer and a bullshit magician and if he is prescribing speed etc for weightloss he really needs to be taught a lesson.
 
Thing is there are very popular America "guru's" recommending Adderall which is basically speed for their clients.
They do this openly it's no secret.

My thoughts on the guy are so mixed.
I always found him entertaining and fun to talk to back in the day and I am going back 7-8 years.
But why does he suggest all these really harsh protocals....1500 calories of white fish and tons of drugs.....this is not needed....don't try and put 10 weeks of work into 5 and you wont have these issues!
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    I know we don't always get on but least u can see mob mentality when hardly any info has any backing.
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    Yeah they're going hard at it. People love to talk shit on public media though. but then they don't say any thing in person....funny how that works

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    Thing is I'm not baby in person never one ever
    Tradin standard police no one

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    fitness world is filled with tools. I deal with them on a daily basis. I have two gym owners near me that hate my guts. easy to talk shit from behind a computer screen but when I see them in person not a word spoken.

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    Haha shock! Sadly more will follow now I bow out
    Holly was my ex gf who cheated on me
    Ask for real people ask where the real testimonies are and why I have the largest team in UK and that's a fact
    Most pros and top amateurs

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    I have 10 ukbff top 3
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    5 Wbff pros
    Oh added two last night
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Thing is there are very popular America "guru's" recommending Adderall which is basically speed for their clients.
They do this openly it's no secret.

My thoughts on the guy are so mixed.
I always found him entertaining and fun to talk to back in the day and I am going back 7-8 years.
But why does he suggest all these really harsh protocals....1500 calories of white fish and tons of drugs.....this is not needed....don't try and put 10 weeks of work into 5 and you wont have these issues!
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    I know we don't always get on but least u can see mob mentality when hardly any info has any backing.
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    Yeah they're going hard at it. People love to talk shit on public media though. but then they don't say any thing in person....funny how that works

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    Never
    Big Aaron is two faced
    Thing is I'm not baby in person never one ever
    Tradin standard police no one

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    fitness world is filled with tools. I deal with them on a daily basis. I have two gym owners near me that hate my guts. easy to talk shit from behind a computer screen but when I see them in person not a word spoken.

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    Haha shock! Sadly more will follow now I bow out
    Holly was my ex gf who cheated on me
    Ask for real people ask where the real testimonies are and why I have the largest team in UK and that's a fact
    Most pros and top amateurs

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    James Alexander Ellis world pro
    Neal Anderson world pro
    Claire aves world pro
    Fran fox world pro
    I have 10 ukbff top 3
    One treble nationals champ
    5 Wbff pros
    Oh added two last night
    Sorry forgot
    Literally
    @francisdiet Instagram
    They jealous as all are shredded or a aiding
    Amazing
    Dan Ventura pro and world model
    Aaron Skye quest bar Europe Fro
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    Ceo
    Ramin - plays lead in Les miserable a New York broadway and world famous no1 stage star
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Lol, he doesn't even know his team / clients names!!! Aaron Skye quest Europe pmsl. I know who he's talking about and his surname isn't Skye nor has he prepped or trained him for anything.
 
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a few names whom if I recall couldn't cut it in IFBB (national and / or things like Arnold AMs) .... lets just say one name on that list competed with someone I know who had the same issue with an IFBB associated Fed.... then that person I know walked over to Musclemania and boom first show champion and centre piece of their Asian campaign.... and is now on the #naturalforlife bandwagon ........ or are things like Miami Pro Champions... fair play for first timers - but as marketing centre pieces hardly - and very few trained from scratch - to me the sign of a truly good coach ....... anyway fair play this is getting airtime on Facebook... lots don't read forums and also lots rely on word of mouth or to keep up with the Jones and twitter crowd...

the obvious points about grammar and spelling - and tone of conversation for a graduate - in an English taught subject - and professional therapist and science based coach should set alarm bells off instantly.
 
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James Thompson was never World Champ in MMA - he fought in Pride, EliteXC, Dream etc yes but had a bit of a glass jaw for a HW and had a lot of KO losses.... world champion - defiantely definitely definitely not. Ronnie Man never ever world ranked No1 in MMA - good guy and talented but no1 in the world..... Ronnie himself would never claim that....

La Santa you can book yourself for a group and then 'coach' there... I know thai boxing and tri-athalon events/camps have been organized there and yeah sure you bump into other athletes from other sports but like I said any of us on here could organize a TM camp at La Santa with any of us as the coach or coaching staff.....
 
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Dont know Scott or Aaron but Scott does come across like a twat, but to be fair if the pics can be believed he has a lot of good athletes in awesome condition. And this not a dig at Aaron but in is journal he was praising him saying its the biggest and leanest he has been and what ever scott doing is working etc, while eveyone around was slagging scott Aaron was defending him and his methods, i presume thats still available for people to read?
But first impressions usually correct Scott seems like a bit of a chancer and a bullshit magician and if he is prescribing speed etc for weightloss he really needs to be taught a lesson.

Oh and I was. Up until the point I was advised by Scott to inject 2ml (100mg) of tren suspension and 1ml (50mg) of Winstrol and had to visit A&E twice due to my leg blowing up. It was the 3 weeks of double dosed flucloxacilin antibiotics and IV antibiotics which made me realise he might be a tit.

Then the 1300kcals from white fish whilst training twice a day (AM fastest) and cardio followed by a "trial carb up" where I blew up to almost 280lbs from 255lbs (after which my weight NEVER went back down) and then he wouldn't reply to messages for 5 days which put the nail in the coffin.

He had the excuse of "his gran died and he was in a car accident" (weirdly he was in one a few weeks before too...) but was able to tweet and post pics up from the National's during this time... odd eh?

So yeah. My fault for trusting. But just that... I trusted. Never doubted. And was worse off for it.

Boo hoo me, I know.
 
Aaron, serious question.... When he sends over instruction or a protocol, that is riddled with spelling & grammar mistakes, did you never think, "geez he can't spell or even string a coherent sentence" that alone would ace alarm bells ringing!
 
People told you all of this yet you still went with him. No smoke without fire so it shouldn't come as any great surprise.
 
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Aaron my only critism in what you've said is how you can moan how dangerous it was for him to put you on those dosages, yet youre the one who injected them.

It's like asking a drug dealer what's the best way to get off your tits and then moaning that what he told you to take could be a little dangerous..... Hes not a professional, he doesn't have a degree in safe steroid usage! So I'm.not sure why his clients would.be naive enough to think their safety and health is his main priority, he just wants results!

He had me 2.5g of gear, 18months after my first cycle, I took it for a bit but that's down to me, not him.

This isnt a dig, just something I've noticed a few people coming out and having a moan, about their prep guys getting them to take big dosages!!!! Either take it or move on!! Don't take it and then moan, that's a cope out.

I like Scott in person, he is full of it but I like.him, I always get the sense that he is a decent guy. Not keen on the online thing at all though,
 
ive spoken to him in person a few times, he really is a smooth talker and he could sell ice to an Eskimo.
As a businessman he's done quite well, peddling sub standard goods for excellent returns and maintaining that income despite the barrage of bad feedback. He 's like the car dealer who you know will rip you off with a clapped out motor and leaking head gasket but damn he just sells it to you like you are pulling the wool over his eyes on the low low price you blag him down to.

either way, i read some of it and skipped on out.
move on with your life, accept what happened, learn, grow, never forget
 
If you've sat there and collected all that yourself you've got far too much time on your hands and are borderline stalking the guy. :laugh:
It's from a Twitter page on the stuff he has done.
 
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