Stan Efferding Vs Mike O Hearn

[nibbsey]

I wouldn't
And if you really do, the. I'm afraid you're a mug and not being personal but if you a a believer in the testing system in any sport then all I can say is Lance Armstrong

Lmao

 

[Beef]

A natural guy called Rob Hope is/was (in his peak before injury) far more impressive than him and so is Rich Gozdecki imo and both who've been tested numerous times so I don't think its unbelievable he is natural. Oh and yes I know testing can be beaten but our testing here is very good.

For the sake of the argument, let's pick the largest of the two (and one of the largest so called natty's there is) and compare him to Mike O'Hearn on stage. Admittedly not a good photo but it's the best I could find of similar poses.

 

[jtf1]

Not personal but you call me 'a mug' lol ok mate :-)............... Never said I fully believe in the testing system but I do believe for small time Bodybuilding the NPA and BNBF lie detector and wada doping tests are as good as it gets and Natural Bodybuilding is a very small circle so you usually get caught. BTW I know super league players who use so yes I do know passing a test can be easy but for Natural Bodybuilding the signs are usually there.
@Tom I've met both and Rich at his biggest was bigger than Mike when i met him all be it not in as good as nick at the time but a very big guy.

 

[hsmann87]

For the sake of the argument, let's pick the largest of the two (and one of the largest so called natty's there is) and compare him to Mike O'Hearn on stage. Admittedly not a good photo but it's the best I could find of similar poses.

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thats a bad pic and an old one of rich gozdecki

plus pics dont mean shit, its all about real life

on stage phil heath beats kai greene but in real life kai looks a lot bigger than phil - BBing is an illusion

 

[nibbsey]

Not personal but you call me 'a mug' lol ok mate :-)............... Never said I fully believe in the testing system but I do believe for small time Bodybuilding the NPA and BNBF lie detector and wada doping tests are as good as it gets and Natural Bodybuilding is a very small circle so you usually get caught. BTW I know super league players who use so yes I do know passing a test can be easy but for Natural Bodybuilding the signs are usually there.
@Tom I've met both and Rich at his biggest was bigger than Mike when i met him all be it not in as good as nick at the time but a very big guy.

I meant it in a generic manner, that if one believes the tests then one is a mug. Not you lol

Just an aside, did you watch the Panorama on doping the other night?
That is worth a watch if you're interested in that kind of thing

 

[jtf1]

No I missed it mate was going to watch on catch up. Like I said I know first hand it happens but also know the odd freak who I have 100 faith in they don't take anything but look crazy black lad at my gym for example doesn't have a clue what he is doing with training or diet but is strong as hell and looks amazing god help everyone if he did lol. I just think sometimes its easier to say gear and thats partly down to the amount of lads who take it yet still don't look that good then people think if they take it and look like that then anyone looking better must certainly be on it.

 

[nibbsey]

No I missed it mate was going to watch on catch up. Like I said I know first hand it happens but also know the odd freak who I have 100 faith in they don't take anything but look crazy black lad at my gym for example doesn't have a clue what he is doing with training or diet but is strong as hell and looks amazing god help everyone if he did lol. I just think sometimes its easier to say gear and thats partly down to the amount of lads who take it yet still don't look that good then people think if they take it and look like that then anyone looking better must certainly be on it.

I agree totally with your last statement re. lads that use looking shite therefore anyone remotely good has to be on it.