mrj
Full Member
last night i had 2 big mac meals 2 quarter pounder meals, i took the burgers out of 1 of each type and made 1 double quarter and 1 quad burger big mac
now that was the shizzle nizzle yummmmm
look leaner this morning too lol
now that was the shizzle nizzle yummmmm
look leaner this morning too lol
Sacky
Full Member
I have one every 2-3 weeks usually a teaspoon if peanut butter and a dash if double cream are enough to keep any cravings away.
I read the second paragraph as 'shreddies and bagels but when my boyfriend had dropped a fair bit'
clean carb up or dirty carb up IMO matters not as both have similar effects.
for those that have dieted down to sub 10% bf i imagine not many notice a difference between taking in 500g carbs clean and taking in 500g carbs from dirty sources that come with extra fats and sugar etc.
I no myself i have noticed an actual better effect when eating so many "dirty" meals in a set period of time than eating "clean" meals.
However you do need to be careful to stick with foods that agree with your stomach so will not cause bloat.
for those that have dieted down to sub 10% bf i imagine not many notice a difference between taking in 500g carbs clean and taking in 500g carbs from dirty sources that come with extra fats and sugar etc.
I no myself i have noticed an actual better effect when eating so many "dirty" meals in a set period of time than eating "clean" meals.
However you do need to be careful to stick with foods that agree with your stomach so will not cause bloat.
Smeagol
Full Member
Had my first cheat meal this week 
a steakhouse Angus xl wooper from bk Mmmmmm.
a steakhouse Angus xl wooper from bk Mmmmmm.
Con
Moderator
Had my first cheat meal this week
Did you like it then?
I had one of those the other night while spending the night with the junkies and homeless in the train station of Zurich.
I found it too expensive and for some reason i don't like the BK burgers i find them dry....
Prodiver
Top Contributor
There's no way that Lucozade, Shreddies and bagels are "cleaner" than any other foods in any sense!
They're almost pure sugar and starch, which raise blood triglycerides immediately and cause a huge insulin spike, with all the adverse effects noted for instance in the Fathead movie.
Haribo, chocolate, donuts, cheese cake and mixed kebabs are not only better bodybuilding food and more satiating, because they contain fat, but also lower in sugars and carbs gram for gram, so some weight loss might even occur.
There really are no such things as clean or dirty foods.
The obsession with low fat, and that somehow rice and other carbs are "clean" is absurd - and don't aid muscle gain.
They're almost pure sugar and starch, which raise blood triglycerides immediately and cause a huge insulin spike, with all the adverse effects noted for instance in the Fathead movie.
Haribo, chocolate, donuts, cheese cake and mixed kebabs are not only better bodybuilding food and more satiating, because they contain fat, but also lower in sugars and carbs gram for gram, so some weight loss might even occur.
There really are no such things as clean or dirty foods.
The obsession with low fat, and that somehow rice and other carbs are "clean" is absurd - and don't aid muscle gain.
LittleChris
Competitor
Agree but one difference is that with higher fats you slow down digestion and limit the amount of carbs you can fit in.
Provider. You are slightly missing the point in the context of the OP a bit, as yo go off on your evangelical pro fat parade
I like Skip hills refeed method of a day of super high carbs but keeping the fats very low....and using this to figure out timings of what it takes to have you full to bursting then the time after that it takes for you to water over then dry up...for the purpose of hitting the stage
I like Skip hills refeed method of a day of super high carbs but keeping the fats very low....and using this to figure out timings of what it takes to have you full to bursting then the time after that it takes for you to water over then dry up...for the purpose of hitting the stage
Con
Moderator
Since when do haribo contain fat besides trace amounts? The main ingredient is glucose so its the same as a lucazade....does taste better though that is for sure.
When talking about clean carbs people refer to the yams/sweet potatoes, brown rice, rye bread....this kind of thing.
Unless of course i am confused....it is confusing i will admit all these terms people use.
IF we talk from a purely health point of view carbs should always be limited and sugars always avoided.
But this is bodybuilding we speak about which is in its nature not healthy to start with.
When talking about clean carbs people refer to the yams/sweet potatoes, brown rice, rye bread....this kind of thing.
Unless of course i am confused....it is confusing i will admit all these terms people use.
IF we talk from a purely health point of view carbs should always be limited and sugars always avoided.
But this is bodybuilding we speak about which is in its nature not healthy to start with.
Smitch
Top Contributor
I fvcking love Haribo.
LittleChris
Competitor