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Do Fat Burners Work?

Scudd33 said:
Most insane fat loss I ever experienced was with clen and metformin but the caveat is you will need at least 8iu of GH Ed to keep any functional muscle obvs with a very honed diet plan
Quite common sub cycle with men’s physique bunch.
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What's a sub cycle mate? Is it something ran between blasts
 
Scudd33 said:
Most insane fat loss I ever experienced was with clen and metformin but the caveat is you will need at least 8iu of GH Ed to keep any functional muscle obvs with a very honed diet plan
Quite common sub cycle with men’s physique bunch.
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what ? why do you need 8iu of GH if using Clen and Metformin.... LOL..... it most certainly isnt common with the Mens Physique bunch .... metformin can effect test but no issue if you use gear.... Clen not really needed at all.... I dont use on my MP guys....
 
noel said:
what ? why do you need 8iu of GH if using Clen and Metformin.... LOL..... it most certainly isnt common with the Mens Physique bunch .... metformin can effect test but no issue if you use gear.... Clen not really needed at all.... I dont use on my MP guys....
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Ok pal.try and see.
 
Metformin at 1000mg Ed will 100% effect your test levels regardless of your gear use age
 
Just to ab clear I ran this with 1250mg sust and 1000mg of primo amd bloods looked just above normal range without GH,mental.
Before you ask this was on Inone
I understand that met will blunt the igf1 response and tank your sex drive,this is why 8iu.personally just found less than that totally useless having fucked around with it for over a year-I am 105kg 6.4”
As for your free test it will take a huge knock I did see muscle loss,even at maintainance cals and still pushing pr
Try it and see for yourself
 
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Scudd33 said:
Just meant as ancillary bud,lots of hate for the comment in all honesty I’ve not seen anything like it for fat loss.
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not think it probably had more to do with 8ius of growth?

Ive only ran growth once or twice but always leaned up massively using it.
 
G-G said:
not think it probably had more to do with 8ius of growth?

Ive only ran growth once or twice but always leaned up massively using it.
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Really? Ok that’s fair,I’ve run a few different brands at split doses morning and bedtime at around 4 and 6iu with very little result apart from some fat loss and very good sleep.
Soon as I went over 8 it felt like a rocket
 
Scudd33 said:
Really? Ok that’s fair,I’ve run a few different brands at split doses morning and bedtime at around 4 and 6iu with very little result apart from some fat loss and very good sleep.
Soon as I went over 8 it felt like a rocket
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Whos gh did you use
 
Scudd33 said:
Ok pal.try and see.
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but you told me its very popular with mens physique guys, I train a lot , some are very very high level....none have ever used or heard of this as a thing.... not been mentioned by any pro I know... so im just questioning the statement... as lots of people claim certain classes or pros use this and that, and most often its just not true, Chinese whispers..

now metformin is very useful I agree.... I also think and personally have seen great results in almost everyone who uses high dose genuine pharma like Geno pens... I think its more likely the GH doing the work here.... most pros run GH year round as much as they can... and in between blasts/cycles people usually drop to TRT, keep GH in, so they lose some of the cycle water and then look great.... especially if they are nailing everything (which most high level guys are)
 
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noel said:
but you told me its very popular with mens physique guys, I train a lot , some are very very high level....none have ever used or heard of this as a thing.... not been mentioned by any pro I know... so im just questioning the statement... as lots of people claim certain classes or pros use this and that, and most often its just not true, Chinese whispers..

now metformin is very useful I agree.... I also think and personally have seen great results in almost everyone who uses high dose genuine pharma like Geno pens... I think its more likely the GH doing the work here.... most pros run GH year round as much as they can... and in between blasts/cycles people usually drop to TRT, keep GH in, so they lose some of the cycle water and then look great.... especially if they are nailing everything (which most high level guys are)
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Ok,let me clear this up,I never took gh and met together.
I was confirming that I have used GH effectively and it is a great tool just simply that it is needed if run met for time as it blunts igf1 response.
When I said men’s physique I wasn’t talking about here I meant the states and it just seems to get rambled in and on about a hell of a lot over there like some wonder drug…
So tried it with clen and my cycle and it was pretty savage and I just wanted to share that here.
I’m not about Chinese whispers or whatever shit it is that you think I listen to.
I have big respect for what you do man but there are a hundred ways to skin a cat.
Please don’t think I would ever open my mouth about anything I haven’t personally tried,that is just how stupid shit turns into bro science.
It’s why I’m not on ukm or any other forum.
 
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