High Dose Deca for lean bulk?

[Rajai7]

Alright Lads,

i got 3 10ml vials of deca 300 and 1 test 300 vial (was mix up in the order) n a bottle of 10ml mast e.

been researching like f00k for the past 2 months about high dose deca with low dose test etc

i havent run real deca before because my first cycle i was sold bunk deca but not bunk test.


been thinking of the new year cycle for jan

500mg deca + 300mg test per week + 200mg masteron e (for libido and anti e propertys)

or order more test

400mg deca + 600mg test per week

i have some mild gyno so will run caber 0.5mg weekly and adex 1mg weekly as well

what would you do?


p.s.

stats -
85kg 13% bf
5 ft 7
21 years old
3 years lifting

 

[flynnie11]

aint exactly high dose , high dose deca to me would be 800+

whats reason for higher deca that test , may i ask?

 

[Rajai7]

simply because deca is more anabolic then test

and i figured it'd give me more lean gains along with fact i have joint problems too (and i only have 1 vial of test at hand lol) have u ever run deca that high at 800mg?

 

[flynnie11]

simply because deca is more anabolic then test

and i figured it'd give me more lean gains along with fact i have joint problems too (and i only have 1 vial of test at hand lol) have u ever run deca that high at 800mg?

no havnt , just saying thats what i think is high

id run aleast 600mg deca if u going to have it more than test

 

[Rajai7]

cheers lads

 

[Jethro]

From my understanding, the trend in the states is to run test low and anything androgenic higher. Seems like everyone is doing it, and having good results. It puts the fear of god in @Stephen but its worked fine for me so far.

 

[Jim]

Me personally I'd opt for high test and slightly lower deca....

I think the deca test mast cycle you outlined would be fine.

The thing with deca (any nandro) is that it has the tendency to cause floppy willy!

I personally would always run test as a base and add other bits and bobs to the cycle....

 

[Jim]

What you could do is order some propionate and run deca, mast, test and if you run into libido issues then add in some prop...

 

[Rajai7]

yeah thats a sound idea mate never thought of that!

I do love Test but im just scared of my gyno getting worse and i need something other then a NSAID for my elbow and knee. However i could always up the AI... and do

600mg Deca 300mg Test E 2-400mg Mast E Test Prop at 100mg EOD + 0.5mg caber 2mg Adex per week

 

[Rajai7]

@Jethro52185

When you say more androgenic would u mean Masteron, Tren etc or Anabolics deca primo at a higher dose? like low test high tren or low test and high primo ?

 

[Jethro]

@Jethro52185

When you say more androgenic would u mean Masteron, Tren etc or Anabolics deca primo at a higher dose? like low test high tren or low test and high primo ?

Yes, low test, high tren/mast/etc. I'm currently running 200mg test and 525mg tren. So far it's working great. 15 pounds gain in 15 days. I understand there are two completely different schools of thought for this. People in the states will say to run just enough test to compensate for your lack of natural production and let the androgenic effect of tren/mast/etc rule during the cycle. Just a different way of thinking. Seems to be going well for me personally though, but I'm only 15 days deep in my cycle, so things could change for me real soon. Who knows?

 

[Jim]

yeah thats a sound idea mate never thought of that!

I do love Test but im just scared of my gyno getting worse and i need something other then a NSAID for my elbow and knee. However i could always up the AI... and do

600mg Deca 300mg Test E 2-400mg Mast E Test Prop at 100mg EOD + 0.5mg caber 2mg Adex per week

For joints bud go for- glucosamine sulphate, msm, cissus and fish oils.

 

[Rajai7]

Thats pretty damn impressive Jethro. Thats a new idea i must toy with in the future. I have heard about doing the low test high anabolics but there are so many ways u can cycle. Just trying to find the optimal way is what counts.

 

[Rajai7]

Jim - im already on them apart from the cissus will give that a go though.