Sensible Precautions Whilst Using Aas

[Sjundea]

I am much healthier and more health conscious than my mates who drink virtually every night and smash booze/coke at weekend, smoke like chimneys and never go the gym, eat shite and do not do any of the points in the OP. I believe there are healthy people out there but yet to meet a non-gear user in real life who has regular blood tests, owns a BP monitor etc etc.

only people I know that would are people that have been diagnosed with bp issues, had a stroke etc.
My old man has one for the above reasons, and when I lived at home I would use his. Got my own little Omron now. doesn't cost much and good to know what's going on.

 

[Tommy6]

Ha good point well made. For me personally all future cycles will fall between 500mg-1g test(never been that high) and the odd run of anavar

 

[Mr mac]

Genuine question, do you train/take peds?

I've trained since 94 and stupidly started anabolics at 19. My saving grace was everything was pharma grade then so two shots of sust and 30mg of 5mg dianabol put me up to 17st. Late 30s from years of heavy Dorian style training fucked me up. I knew blood pressure was higher than it should and I was starting to feel shit constantly.
Stopped it all and have been natty for about 8/9 years. I have stocks of test as my levels are right on the edge of low and will look at trt at a very last resort. Probably 1/2ml every 7-10 days test only nothing else.
Right now fitness mobility first then some lifting as second fiddle. I don't knock anyone for doing this but I do laugh when people ask other people they have never met to Justify their cycle and tell them they will be fine.

 

[Mr mac]

Ha good point well made. For me personally all future cycles will fall between 500mg-1g test(never been that high) and the odd run of anavar

I ask why?
What will the average trainee who may not be consistent with training diet from using a gram when probably 200mg of prop will have you look great with minimal water. Anavar has been shown to really fuck lipids. This whole notion it's safe and doesn't really do any damage. This was all based on a 5 mg pill. The fact most run it 75mg per day again shows 10-15 times its intended use

 

[Mr mac]

I know a few but they’re all fucking weirdos.

Bit like us lot really.

Imagine trying to sit down with your mates and explain what us lot talk about. What we do?

“ yeah mate just running a metabolic poison to lose a few lb for summer “

“yeah they inject bulls with it bro, just using it to hit my next PB. Nah it’s not for human use”

“Just a horse steroid mate, yeah like a performance enhancer for red rum init”


“ARE YOU FUCKING TAPPED MATE??? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?”

“shut up mate you smoke and eat burgers”


WUUUUUUUT

Think I’ll pass.

So true. Say what you like about the 3 day a week natty lifter but they are not letting it rule their lives. Enhancing health and devoting about 3 hours a week and minimal cash to it.
Forcing 7 meals in taking boatload of drugs and feeling like shit all whilst paying £200 a month for an online coach so you can be top dog at Xvercise4less.
Who's the idiot

 

[Tommy6]

I ask why?
What will the average trainee who may not be consistent with training diet from using a gram when probably 200mg of prop will have you look great with minimal water. Anavar has been shown to really fuck lipids. This whole notion it's safe and doesn't really do any damage. This was all based on a 5 mg pill. The fact most run it 75mg per day again shows 10-15 times its intended use

Again good question and point well made, good discussion this. For me personally its toi see what I am capable of, I’ve been happy with my shape on 500mg and I like the feeling test gives... just one push at a high dos to see what happens really. I’m 30 soon to be father of 3 so push from likely March - June 2018 into a holiday just to experiment really.

 

[Sjundea]

All boils down to insecurities and a need to impress other people doesn’t it.

The bigger the insecurity the bigger the likelihood of the individual taking risks.

There’s guys on this board doing things to impress other guys on this board, there’s guys on this board desperately trying to justify themselves to other board members.

Why?

Insecurity.

When you’re comfortable you just think well i know that and that’s cool. You don’t need to justify it to anyone but yourself but that requires honesty with yourself. Is it worth it? Is the risk of shortening your life worth it?


Probably not.....


You’ll prob note most of us invest less and less into this as we age, we don’t care so much about physique and we gravity to personal goals like lifting numbers or health markers. We start engaging in more healthy behaviours and less unhealthy.

Correlates strongly with the fact that as we age we also give less and less fucks about impressing other people and become more invested in ourselves and our loved ones. Life generally generally moves towards looking after number 1 so number 1 can look after those he loves.

I don’t knock anyone for doing what makes them happy but when I see young lads sat in eating chicken and broccoli of a weekend as they’re so invested in setting lean they think it has to be that way I do find it all very fucking tragic but we’ve all been there.

I digress though....

Could not agree more!

Ego/insecurity was way more prevalent in my earlier 20s, as you get older and settle you realise that there is a lot more to life than having abs and lifting weights.

I just accept the cards I was dealt now - which I did not 5-10 years back.

 

[Guest]

Prepare for the worst hope for the best chaps

 

[Tommy6]

What do you think is gonna happen that won’t happen at 500mg?

Bigger, stronger, faster(not really faster) tbh mate. I know most will say diet and training but that’ll be in place otherwise everyone wouldn’t go above 500mg surely?

 

[huntingground]

Can’t say I ever did better on high doses.

Never saw anyone run a blast and look all that much different at the end either.

Reckon you’ll be dissapointed but everyone has to see for themselves. Physique don’t grow all that much in ten weeks though, let’s be honest.

Cutting is a different matter but I never understood dosing high on a cut, seems arse about tit to me

I've had large strength increases from large dosages (I've never been too bothered about physique). I remember beginning of 2017 shooting 10ml TMT500 (later to be known as TMT300 ) a week, orals and loads of pre-WO. Within 6 weeks I DL'ed 305 (PB from 288) and SQ'ed 300 (PB from 280) and I could have squatted much, much more.

I stay away from Tren now so won't be able to do a re-test of the above.

 

[Sjundea]

I've had large strength increases from large dosages (I've never been too bothered about physique). I remember beginning of 2017 shooting 10ml TMT500 (later to be known as TMT300 ) a week, orals and loads of pre-WO. Within 6 weeks I DL'ed 305 (PB from 288) and SQ'ed 300 (PB from 280) and I could have squatted much, much more.

I stay away from Tren now so won't be able to do a re-test of the above.

Please commence your draft of my cycle to peak and lift pbs in the where's wally PL comp.

 

[pooley1810]

Abuse anything and you’re likely gonna have problems sooner or later
Food, booze, reccys, prescription meds etc
Gear is no different, used correctly ie what it was designed for then health issues are gonna be minimal. The more you use the higher the risks, that’s obvious
How you’re body reacts to certain compounds is obviously another good sign. Orals make me feel shit after a few weeks, I’ll likely never use again. There’s a reason they kill your appetite, they stress your liver

Here’s me talking about not using orals as I’ve just opened my latest order to find they’ve thrown in 30 m tren tabs
As Alanis morissette said, isn’t it ironic!

 

[pooley1810]

So true. Say what you like about the 3 day a week natty lifter but they are not letting it rule their lives. Enhancing health and devoting about 3 hours a week and minimal cash to it.
Forcing 7 meals in taking boatload of drugs and feeling like shit all whilst paying £200 a month for an online coach so you can be top dog at Xvercise4less.
Who's the idiot

I’m only eating 5 meals mate

 

[Sjundea]

Here’s me talking about not using orals as I’ve just opened my latest order to find they’ve thrown in 30 m tren tabs
As Alanis morissette said, isn’t it ironic!

if they need a new home mate... haha

 

[huntingground]

Deadlifted 305 natty bruh.

Come at me.

400 on 5g then [emoji23]