Boxing Thread

[phani tikkala]

This came up in conversation today. the time Amir Khan tried to impersonate a new born giraffe

 

[huntingground]

Anthony Joshua v Tyson Fury talks with interested venues begin

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/52502389

 

[Afghan]

Anthony Joshua v Tyson Fury talks with interested venues begin

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/52502389

Hearn has already denied any talks have begun chap.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-wants-joshua-fury-denies-negotiations-begun--148615

Arum also stated if Wilder doesnt happen (hes just had surgery) then Fury will fight somebody else in the states.

This is mainly due to Pulev being Joshuas mandatory

 

[huntingground]

Hearn has already denied any talks have begun chap.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-wants-joshua-fury-denies-negotiations-begun--148615

Arum also stated if Wilder doesnt happen (hes just had surgery) then Fury will fight somebody else in the states.

This is mainly due to Pulev being Joshuas mandatory

Did you read the BBC link mate?

At this stage, establishing how much money could be generated by a Joshua-Fury bout is seen as key as it would allow clarity on what could be offered to Wilder and Pulev in order for them to break the contracts they have in place.

The 'step aside' money on offer for both men would be several million dollars and there is a feeling privately that Wilder - who has just had surgery - would take it, even though those closest to him have refused to acknowledge the prospect.

Wilder was due to face Fury for a third time but both dates in July and October have been wiped out by the coronavirus outbreak. It is not known as to whether the contract in place for the fight could lapse as a result of the delays but if it did, it would free Fury to pursue his fight of choice.

"Negotiations aren't under way," Joshua's promoter Hearn told Sky Sports on Thursday. "What I can tell you is we are talking. We are all on the same page. You will get this fight, it's just a case of where and when.

"There is the major hurdle that we are both under contract for other fights. Everything is solvable with money."

 

[Afghan]

Fury should fight Whyte in the states imo, nice easy fight if Wilder doesnt happen

 

[huntingground]

Nothing in there about Arum's remarks though!!

 

[huntingground]

 

[Bigjab]

Morrison was outclassed but I always thought he looked in decent nick for a boxer

 

[huntingground]

AJ v Fury

50/50 fight for me.

Will Fury come in around 270 like last time, or will he be back down to the 255/260 type levels he has been previously. Will AJ stick around the 240 mark like for Ruiz 2 or will he be back closer to 250 as he was before.

Will AJ be the boxer of the Parker fight, the mover of Ruiz 2 or the smashing ball of the Wlad fight. Will we see the twitchy Klitschko version of Fury or the bully Fury of the Wilder fight.

McCracken is a master tactician. With Froch and AJ he has adapted successful game plans, he studied fighters and we have seen AJ is disciplined enough to play out these game plans and has the skills to adapt with new facets to his game. Counter and combination punching are two highly underrated parts of his armour. Look at how he put away the well schooled Povetkin for evidence. Most importantly though he punches hard and fast and will throw when Fury throws. He is dangerous at long or mid range, and if Fury decides to plant his feet he can be careless. Deontay Wilder hasn’t got the tools to take advantage of a sloppy Fury, AJ has. At mid or close range if Fury is complacent at any time over the 12 rounds then Joshua can land multi punch combinations which could be fight finishing or more likely fight changing.

One thing I think could be relevant is which one of the two is the more dedicated athlete? This lay off could be relevant. Neither man will fight again this year, that much is certain. Fury may fight Wilder again in around a years time. Joshua may fight Pulev in the same time frame. More likely is that it will be more, possibly July/August of 2021. Which one can maintain fitness/dedication. For me that gives AJ more of a chance in say December 2021 than if this virus hadn't happened. If Wilder gives Fury a war and AJ blows Pulev away opinions on this forum could change.

Fury should box at range for his best chance to win, AJ has much better fundamentals than Wilder and will defo catch him with one-twos or single shots in mid or close range.

TF 1/2
AJ 6/4
Draw 28/1

At these odds, I would be backing AJ at this time. We could be 18-24 months away from this fight and lots of factors could change though in the meantime.

 

[Bigjab]

AJ v Fury

50/50 fight for me.

Will Fury come in around 270 like last time, or will he be back down to the 255/260 type levels he has been previously. Will AJ stick around the 240 mark like for Ruiz 2 or will he be back closer to 250 as he was before.

Will AJ be the boxer of the Parker fight, the mover of Ruiz 2 or the smashing ball of the Wlad fight. Will we see the twitchy Klitschko version of Fury or the bully Fury of the Wilder fight.

McCracken is a master tactician. With Froch and AJ he has adapted successful game plans, he studied fighters and we have seen AJ is disciplined enough to play out these game plans and has the skills to adapt with new facets to his game. Counter and combination punching are two highly underrated parts of his armour. Look at how he put away the well schooled Povetkin for evidence. Most importantly though he punches hard and fast and will throw when Fury throws. He is dangerous at long or mid range, and if Fury decides to plant his feet he can be careless. Deontay Wilder hasn’t got the tools to take advantage of a sloppy Fury, AJ has. At mid or close range if Fury is complacent at any time over the 12 rounds then Joshua can land multi punch combinations which could be fight finishing or more likely fight changing.

One thing I think could be relevant is which one of the two is the more dedicated athlete? This lay off could be relevant. Neither man will fight again this year, that much is certain. Fury may fight Wilder again in around a years time. Joshua may fight Pulev in the same time frame. More likely is that it will be more, possibly July/August of 2021. Which one can maintain fitness/dedication. For me that gives AJ more of a chance in say December 2021 than if this virus hadn't happened. If Wilder gives Fury a war and AJ blows Pulev away opinions on this forum could change.

Fury should box at range for his best chance to win, AJ has much better fundamentals than Wilder and will defo catch him with one-twos or single shots in mid or close range.

TF 1/2
AJ 6/4
Draw 28/1

At these odds, I would be backing AJ at this time. We could be 18-24 months away from this fight and lots of factors could change though in the meantime.

The gypsy king for the win for me but if the lighter AJ who won Ruiz in the second fight shows up we’re in for a belter! Still think fury’s the best of the lot though.

 

[phani tikkala]

The only way AJ will beat TF is if they use a PlayStation 4 game and do it virtually.

 

[Afghan]

Fury by UD imo. He will outbox him every round. Has the ability to finish him off if the opportunity arises.

Furys in a great place atm isnt he, seems to he working out daily too not letting himself get out of shape.

 

[Bigjab]

Joshua vs Pulev at Wembley around Christmas

Wider vs fury for NYE in Vegas

Joshua vs Fury early July somewhere monumental in the UK.

Whole country will go. Beak and beer will be obscene. Fury wins. Street partie's. Huge amounts of money spent.

Economy flourishes. Recession ends. Britain is great again. Money is spent on arms as now everyone's gonna get it.

We all invade China.

Beijing falls within a week as we all 1,1,2 our way through the army of chinamen.

A new world is born.

Oh and whyte fights wilder on the undercard for the no1 contender.

Whyte wins. Wilder retires.

Fury beats Whyte and Fury retires.

Bob Arum dies a legend.


Viva la espagna

Beautifully put haha the beak and beer just topped it off!

 

[huntingground]

Just to put it into context the odds of 1/2 and 6/4 imply that TF has a 67% chance of winning and AJ a 33% chance of winning. I give AJ more than 33% therefore I would back AJ at those odds. I think they should both be evens (50/50) and therefore it is a no brainer bet for me.

What chances do you give each boxer?

 

[huntingground]

Aj has a punchers chance against fury.

Same as the rest of the division.

70/30 to TF?
80/20?
90/10?