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Fortitude Training (Review)

Thanks guys.

So Bulgarian split squats could be used as loading exercises for thigh movement?

Upper Mr tier 2 for me today

Again, great answer from Righty.

If those are REALLY a go to exercise for you for training heavy - and the intent with the Loading sets is to create a stimulus that's different than that with MR's and PUMP sets - then you could do that. For the reasons Righty mentions, you'd want to do those in a higher rep range and b/c you're doing both legs, there's the issue of cardiovascular strain. That comes into play to a certain degree b/c of the rest interval (you do in "in shape" with FT), but I'd not want someone still gasping for breath when doing loading sets in a unilateral fashion.

A solution, if you just MUST, would be do put the isolation exercises between the Bulgarian split squats so that your HR is recovered. (Split squats firs and then at the end of the Loading sets for Tier II.

-S
 
A solution, if you just MUST, would be do put the isolation exercises between the Bulgarian split squats so that your HR is recovered. (Split squats firs and then at the end of the Loading sets for Tier II.

-S
That's a pretty clever way of signing off the whole workout without having a short interval at 190bpm. :thumb:
Am stealing that, as unilateral loading is beyond taxing.
 
Scott.


I noticed the fat consumed in the diet seems quite a lot...

I never really go above 70 or 80g a day.

Do you do this a lot to get extra calories in or are there more specific reasons such as health??
 
Scott.


I noticed the fat consumed in the diet seems quite a lot...

I never really go above 70 or 80g a day.

Do you do this a lot to get extra calories in or are there more specific reasons such as health??

Well, I could provide an answer to that, but really, that's all explained (all of the above) in the book. Probably a lot easier for you to read all of that, but the answers are are that you need kcal to grow and fat choices do have have a health impact. :)

The metabolic flexibility notion is just one example of one way to diet and the #'s you see are simply an example.

:)

-S
 
Well, I could provide an answer to that, but really, that's all explained (all of the above) in the book. Probably a lot easier for you to read all of that, but the answers are are that you need kcal to grow and fat choices do have have a health impact. :)

The metabolic flexibility notion is just one example of one way to diet and the #'s you see are simply an example.

:)

-S
Appreciated mate.

On my phone and can't access the book as it's at my parents house on my laptop so won't see them for a few days

wish I could print the pdf then I could take it everywhere with me.

I recall even on training days your first carbs usually come from peri workout nutrition don't they.
 
Appreciated mate.

On my phone and can't access the book as it's at my parents house on my laptop so won't see them for a few days

wish I could print the pdf then I could take it everywhere with me.

I recall even on training days your first carbs usually come from peri workout nutrition don't they.

That depends on when you train.

Remember, there's no "Fortitude Training" diet, except the diet that works FOR YOU. The Metabolic flexibility approach includes some carbs with non post-workout period meals, so that you can eat veggies, for instance.. It's not just an oil n' meat deal. :)

-S
 
True. I normally train after meal 3 or 4 I just thought I'd seen you write that approach out but I can't recall so ill have to re read it when I have access to it
 
True. I normally train after meal 3 or 4 I just thought I'd seen you write that approach out but I can't recall so ill have to re read it when I have access to it

There would be a million perturbations depending on wake / sleep time and time of workout, so I didn't try to write them all out.

Youv'e not mentioned what your'e doing diet wise, but one of the first things I suggest to folks is to stick with their current dietary approach, assuming it's working, when doing the 1st blast. If that previously effective approach can't be modified with the training, then go for something new. I just put out a few suggestions so folks could give the notion of nutrient timing with a metabolic flexibility twist a shot.

In your case, if you were to follow what I've set out int he book, you'd simply start the day with 2-3 low carb higher fat meals to meet your kcal requirement, then perhaps lower fat (low carb) meal as your last meal before training (this clears the GI for the periworkout RS and seems to allow for greater eating post-workout). Thereafter, eat high carb / low fat (adequate protein to meet daily needs) during the 6-8 hr post-workout period.

:)

-S
 
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Perfect Scott
You're a star.
Thanks so much
 
LOL - I do my best to twinkle now n' again. :)

You're welcome!

-S
Well finally on my laptop!!

On rest days diet it says carbs with breakfast if training late.

Is 5pm considered late?

on off days would you spread carbs evenly each meal if going for 100g or do you feel there are specific times on off days to consume carbs that are beneficial.

I'm consuming 150g hbcd peri rs and takes me till pwo then an hour later ill eat lean protein with jasmine rice and organic honey.

Then I'm following with another meal before bed which has 100g carbs from sweet potato then cream of rice or oats in a casein shake pre bed.

Got lots of digestive enzymes etc too.
 
Well finally on my laptop!!

On rest days diet it says carbs with breakfast if training late.

Is 5pm considered late?

That depends on how late you stay up. :)

The idea is simply to make use of that 6-8 hr post-workout for recovery with carbs and adequate protein, focusing a majority of your days kcals in that period (including the intra-workout)

If you say, train at 9PM an are in bed by 12PM, AM carbs would be good idea for someone trying to GAIN weight who is also using carbs only on during the post-WO period (with the ~100g 'rule' on non-training day).

(This is all in the book, BTW. :) )


on off days would you spread carbs evenly each meal if going for 100g or do you feel there are specific times on off days to consume carbs that are beneficial.

If you were to keep with the metabolic flexibity notion (again, in Le Book. :) ), then putting your carbs late in the day would work well.

The idea of those ~100 carbs is to permit veggies and fruits during this day.

I'm consuming 150g hbcd peri rs and takes me till pwo then an hour later ill eat lean protein with jasmine rice and organic honey.

Then I'm following with another meal before bed which has 100g carbs from sweet potato then cream of rice or oats in a casein shake pre bed.

Got lots of digestive enzymes etc too.

OK, well don't know how large you are, what your kcal are, and most importantly, whether you're growing or have grown with your total kcal / macro intake. (We're not trying to re-invent the wheel and theres' not dietary magic here, really. Big picture stuff like total kcal and getting adequate protein are first and foremost.)

If you've based the above on your previous diet and are growing on that kcal intake (but not too fast and getting fat), then you're probably doing just fine.

MOST folks find they have to eat MORE doing FT than previously, I've found, so you'd simply adjust kcal upward.

-S
 
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Yeah I will slowly up cals as need.
I'll train at 5 and be in bed for 11...

So maybe 4.5 to 5 hours pwo I get....so in this case I guess I'll be ok and can go low carb first few meals non training day to help with insulin sensitivity then split 90 carbs or so across last 3 meals.
 
Yeah I will slowly up cals as need.
I'll train at 5 and be in bed for 11...

So maybe 4.5 to 5 hours pwo I get....so in this case I guess I'll be ok and can go low carb first few meals non training day to help with insulin sensitivity then split 90 carbs or so across last 3 meals.

Sounds like a decent plan. :)

-S
 
Sounds like a decent plan. :)

-S
Scott..

One more question on the diet..

I noticed in the 'Example' meal plan you have your peri workout shake around the workout...then your 1st PWO meal is a shake also along with cereal....do you feel a solid meal would be a better option as in that plan there are 3 meals and 3 shakes, or is that just for sake of convenience when home from the gym? Just feel it will be a lot of liquid on your stomach in a few hour period if you get me?

Thanks
 
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